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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth View Post
    You don't have took to the America. Dakar does the same already. Anyone can build car there with variety of engines. And there are a lot of entries from various makers, privateers, or tuners.

    For example, Martin Prokop is building his Ford Raptor in his team. Well if a privateers can build Dakar car, I'm sure that huge teams like Prodrive, GCK or Oreca will be able to build Rally1 car.
    Since Rally1 cars are not proper rally cars those organisations you mention can do this already (if they can fund it and find a manufacturer to stick their badge and headlights on it)

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    Yeah, but the point is that they don't need to find manufacturers at Dakar. Several teams showed that they can build rally car, but finding support of manufacturers is the hardest part.

    Just remember the Corsa R5.

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    But if they don't find a manufacturer then they have to find funding elsewhere, and if they can find that then why wouldn't a manufacturer agree if it isn't going to cost them anything?

    My guess is that if Toyota are indeed spending 60 million euros, that amount wouldn't provde ROI for an external sponsor.

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    In Dakar there are teams that can run team without manufacturers.

    And I don't know why manufacturer wouldn't agree. But try to ask Opel, Mitsubishi, Suzuki and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    But if they don't find a manufacturer then they have to find funding elsewhere, and if they can find that then why wouldn't a manufacturer agree if it isn't going to cost them anything?

    My guess is that if Toyota are indeed spending 60 million euros, that amount wouldn't provde ROI for an external sponsor.
    because constructors have no control over what happens when they don't pay, and it could result in bad publicity.

    The need to have a constructor is a insurmountable obstacle for anyone who wants to build anything. And not just in rc1, but in every class of rallying. I could probably build myself a competitive rc5 or rc4, but i can never get to use it outside of some local regulations because I am no manufacturer and I can't get it homologated.

    It seems the rules are specifically designed to discourage projects that are not backed up by the ever shrinking number of manufacturers, making it effectively impossible to build a car without the permission of one of the huge auto groups.

    Dakar has the luck it is ruled by ASO and not by the FIA, or it would have died long ago.

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    Only you know your true potential.
    This year we rally #ForCraig

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    Jesus Christ

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    Extreme-E is going Hydrogen for 2025. And they will become an FIA World Championship. Not sure if the "exclusivity clausule" will be in place, making it impossible for WRC ("Off Road" championship) to go Hydrogen (like F1 CANT go electric because of F-E - "open wheel").

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    After viewing this video, I will now shill relentlessly for hydrogen over electric as the future of the WRC.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dgzKW8EKMc

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    Michelin expected to submit WRC tyre tender bid

    Michelin will submit a bid to become the World Rally Championship's control tyre supplier from 2025-2027, Motorsport.com understands.

    https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...-bid/10519296/
    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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