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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    I think you're missing the point; they're rallying superstars, no-one is denying that. However, they're not Global Superstars......Hamilton, Rossi, etc
    Yep. You only need one world championship to be a megastar. A computer game helps, but you are more likely to have a police officer tap on your window and utter the words “who do you think you are, Colin McRae” rather than “Sebastian Loeb”

    But rallying is not in the media like it was once upon a time so we are not likely to see a superstar anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm75 View Post
    Yep. You only need one world championship to be a megastar. A computer game helps, but you are more likely to have a police officer tap on your window and utter the words “who do you think you are, Colin McRae” rather than “Sebastian Loeb”

    But rallying is not in the media like it was once upon a time so we are not likely to see a superstar anytime soon.
    Of course, if you were driving like Sebastien Loeb, the police officer wouldn't have caught you

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouvreur View Post
    Of course, if you were driving like Sebastien Loeb, the police officer wouldn't have caught you
    Unless driving on 3 wheels and Elena hanging out the window to balance the car

    Cool times

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    I think you're missing the point; they're rallying superstars, no-one is denying that. However, they're not Global Superstars......Hamilton, Rossi, etc
    ...but they are "nothing" compared to Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, Ronaldo, Messi, T.Woods, Nadal.... And these guys are also "nothing" compared to Madonna, Freddy Mercury, Beatles, Elvis etc.
    And when you include the generational gap, these guys are "nothing" compared to current artist (???) who are also nothing compared to current social media influencers stars (pewdiepie???????????? hahah I dont know the names??). Its a never ending loop, mate.
    WRC is just a niche sport, we will probably never produce mega-stars the way we imagine. F1 is the top thing and Valentino Rossi is probably bigger than MotoGP itself somehow, but its just a niche thing between all motorsport fans (and bikers who dont actually watch MotoGP).

    I remember someone suggesting more "propaganda" with the cars, doing Gymkhana-like videos with Evans, Breen, Lappi, Ott, Neuville and yeah, that would be so rad and I THINK it could reach WAY more people... HOWEVER, millions (maybe Billions) of $ are invested in marketing every year and if they are NOT doing Gymkhana-style videos with WRC cars and drivers is because its not that usefull after all..... So, there you go. WRC cannot produce the type of superstars we are imagining inside our hardcore fan's head. Cheers
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    Have you been listening to sinead O’Connor on loop ��

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    Part of the problem also is advertising in the local community when a rally is on. If a circus was in town you see big posters flyers stuck everywhere for miles around in every nearby town. If a rally is on you have to know when it's on where to go to and then probably try multiple shops in different towns to get a programme to actually go and watch the rally. Unless you really want to go to or follow rallying it's not spectator friendly you can't just buy a ticket see what time the show starts roll up 10mins before it starts take your seat and enjoy it for the next hour and a half. You have to research the location where the rally is based research stage times and viewing locations figure out how many stages you will get prepare for all kinds of weather then stand in a field waiting for the action. And then maybe have a stage cancelled due to idiots standing in the wrong places who think they are rally fans It's for hardcore enthusiasts and no superstar will change that

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    If the two Sebs somehow could be encouraged to co-ordinate what future rounds they do, a savvy Promoter could push their rivalry as 'Revenge of Champion', 'Clash of Titans', etc, etc.
    "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." Steve McQueen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido View Post
    If the two Sebs somehow could be encouraged to co-ordinate what future rounds they do, a savvy Promoter could push their rivalry as 'Revenge of Champion', 'Clash of Titans', etc, etc.
    This is really not a long-term way to build popularity of rallying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wia5958 View Post
    Part of the problem also is advertising in the local community when a rally is on. If a circus was in town you see big posters flyers stuck everywhere for miles around in every nearby town. If a rally is on you have to know when it's on where to go to and then probably try multiple shops in different towns to get a programme to actually go and watch the rally. Unless you really want to go to or follow rallying it's not spectator friendly you can't just buy a ticket see what time the show starts roll up 10mins before it starts take your seat and enjoy it for the next hour and a half. You have to research the location where the rally is based research stage times and viewing locations figure out how many stages you will get prepare for all kinds of weather then stand in a field waiting for the action. And then maybe have a stage cancelled due to idiots standing in the wrong places who think they are rally fans It's for hardcore enthusiasts and no superstar will change that
    Totally agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wia5958 View Post
    Part of the problem also is advertising in the local community when a rally is on. If a circus was in town you see big posters flyers stuck everywhere for miles around in every nearby town. If a rally is on you have to know when it's on where to go to and then probably try multiple shops in different towns to get a programme to actually go and watch the rally. Unless you really want to go to or follow rallying it's not spectator friendly you can't just buy a ticket see what time the show starts roll up 10mins before it starts take your seat and enjoy it for the next hour and a half. You have to research the location where the rally is based research stage times and viewing locations figure out how many stages you will get prepare for all kinds of weather then stand in a field waiting for the action. And then maybe have a stage cancelled due to idiots standing in the wrong places who think they are rally fans It's for hardcore enthusiasts and no superstar will change that
    True! But wrc fans are not onboard with changing the format too. Like "fine, lets use friday and saturday as it is today but these 12 stages will only pay points to the manufacturers/teams. Sunday will be only one stage, the fastest wins. Points only for the driver's championship. A time attack finale, decided in these 45 min - 1 hour(?), broadcasted live."
    That would be way easier to promote, broadcast, to showcase. Just watch ONE uci mtb dh on red bull tv. Try one of the women's race, which is shorter. They know how to present the riders, put you inside the event, explain the rivalities, make you curious about the riders... I cant stop thinking about thia format since I watched last years season (uci mtb dh)

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