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19th December 2021, 16:12 #1
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New FIA President
The FIA members have elected a new president, Mr Mohammed Ben Sulayem.
The first non European president in FIAs 117 year history, so that was about time.
But in these days where many speaks of "sportswashing" in regard to what is happening in football, and the world championship in Qatar.
It is about how corruption bought votes to get the votes, and also how they treat people building the stadiums and other infrastructure needed.
I struggle to understand that our sport can let a person from a non-democratic state, even being allowed to run.
This is what wiki say about UAE:
The UAE is an authoritarian state. The UAE has been described as a "tribal autocracy" where the seven constituent monarchies are led by tribal rulers in an autocratic fashion. There are no democratically elected institutions, and there is no formal commitment to free speech.
UAE is not very far ahead on human rights, equality btw the sexes, gay rights, freedom of expression, freedom of religion, and the list goes on and on.
I do not like that they use international sport to whitewash the way they organize their countries, and treat people.
Ben Suayem is probably a nice guy, but that in not the issue. Non democtratic nations should not be eligble to seek international office, and if they slip through, they should not be elected. In most cases for getting championships, they buy enough votes - I hope it is not the case here.
How do you feel about sportswashing from authoritarian states?
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19th December 2021, 19:24 #2
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From what I can see - most of the European nations are more authoritarian than democratic and freedom-loving.
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28th February 2022, 18:16 #3
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19th December 2021, 20:20 #4
That may be true F1nks but other than your weapons ownership rights, as far as I can see you are not really that far behind us. :/
With regards to Mr Mobinsul being from the UAE and allegedly buying his FIA presidency, that is possibly a fair suspicion to have, but are we naive enough to think that does not and has not happened with candidates from other non authoritarian states? We are just as corrupt as any, if not more so.
He may have had the financial clout to buy these votes, but if true, the rest of us must also have accepted these alleged bribes.. so there is no moral high ground to be held.
On a side note: As far as Authoritarian states go, we are are only judging them through Western eyes. Sure Saddam and Gaddafi were bad dudes who gave any tribal groups some serious ass whooping if/when they stepped out of line.. but it worked, it is all these tribal groups understand and respect.
History has shown us the power vaccum shit show we are left with when we remove these tyrants and install 'freedom and democracy'. Look at Libya and Iraq even now, they will only stabilise once the next strong badass authoritarian leader gets into power.
I say give him a chance, not that we have much of a choice on that one, but if he becomes too heavy handed and proves to be too much of a hardliner, he can get voted back out again. Maybe .. lolThe emergence of the new 'Rainmaster' - Mad Max at Interlagos 2016!
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20th December 2021, 08:35 #6
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It really doesn't bother me that someone with a racing background has become President of the FIA, regardless of where he is from.
It actually bothers me more that they allow races in countries that still abuse many basic human rights recognized by the rest of the developed world. That falls on the government of the country, not the individuals within it.
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21st December 2021, 12:49 #7
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28th February 2022, 18:17 #9
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22nd December 2021, 23:19 #10
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Maybe its a good thing to have female reporters around the F1 track for 3 days wearing regular western clothes. Maybe its a good thing to have women racing electric SUVs in Saudi Arabia. Maybe the next world cup being held in Qatar could be a little first step into a better direction....
I like to think about the 'Observer Effect'. The phenomenon that causes individuals who might have been inclined to act aggressively, abusively or antisocially to modify their behavior when they know that they are being filmed or recorded.
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