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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    it is good to see that Masi has relied on some experienced heads for this season finale. The warning from Masi has been strong and stern. As he warns that championship points would be deducted if necessary should anything considered an unfair foul were to happen during the race. We wait to see if they would operate the stewarding service correctly and effectively of course.
    So if Max takes pole.

    And if hamilton is behind Max going into the first corner and he takes out max (and stewards find Hamilton predominantly at fault), you would agree that Hamilton should be disqualified?

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    Don't worry. Its bottas who will take out max, and perez who will take out hamilton.

    Bottas very nearly succeeded in doing that in jeddah already, only verstappen also breaking way to late stopped him from crashing into the back of max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nKS View Post
    So if Max takes pole.

    And if hamilton is behind Max going into the first corner and he takes out max (and stewards find Hamilton predominantly at fault), you would agree that Hamilton should be disqualified?
    10s penalty is the precedent for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    10s penalty is the precedent for that.
    It would seem its best not to start on pole then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nKS View Post
    So if Max takes pole.

    And if hamilton is behind Max going into the first corner and he takes out max (and stewards find Hamilton predominantly at fault), you would agree that Hamilton should be disqualified?
    It should apply to all drivers regardless of who it is. But it should be fairly determined. Besides, that is not grounds for disqualification. Points deduction is what is proposed in a worst-case scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    It should apply to all drivers regardless of who it is.
    You would think they would, but as Alsonso said there is a "bias".


    But it should be fairly determined.
    As we have seen this year there has been nothing fair or consistent with the stewards. So to think in the last race they could somehow be is a pipe dream.

    Besides, that is not grounds for disqualification. Points deduction is what is proposed in a worst-case scenario.
    “withdrawal of points for the championship” - is just a fancy way of saying Disqualification.

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    At least through FP1 and FP2 - Mercedes are going to dominate. In FP1, Mercedes was sandbagging it. Unfortunately, it looks like this will be an anti-climatic finish to the season.

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    FORMULA 1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX 2021 - PRACTICE 1
    10 12 Dec 2021 Yas Marina Circuit, Yas Island

    https://www.formula1.com/en/results....ractice-1.html


    FORMULA 1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX 2021 - PRACTICE 2
    10 12 Dec 2021 Yas Marina Circuit, Yas Island

    https://www.formula1.com/en/results....ractice-2.html


    Mercedes “media machine” pushing narrative of “crazy” Verstappen – Horner
    2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix
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    10th December 2021, 16:4910th December 2021, 16:49 | Written by Dieter Rencken and Will Wood

    Christian Horner has accused Mercedes of pushing a “clear narrative” against Max Verstappen ahead of this weekend’s championship-deciding race.
    The Red Bull team principal also claimed their rivals resent the competition they face from an opponent they regard as “just an energy drinks company”.

    The teams and their drivers will duel for both the drivers’ and constructors’ championships this weekend at the final race of the season in Abu Dhabi. Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton arrived at the circuit level on points, while Mercedes have a 28-point lead in the teams’ points standings.

    Horner sees Red Bull in a ‘David versus Goliath’ fight with their manufacturer rival. He said his team’s global clout “pales into insignificance” compared to the size of the Mercedes, despite Red Bull’s significant resources and past successes.

    “If you think of the size of Mercedes globally, they must be one of the biggest automotive companies in the world,” Horner said. “The power that they wield with media around the world, I think we pale into insignificance in comparison.”

    He referred to comments Hamilton made about his team in a 2011 interview, when he drove for McLaren. “As Lewis Hamilton indeed called us – we’re ‘just an energy drinks company going racing’.”

    https://www.racefans.net/2021/12/10/...tappen-horner/


    Sky Sports left red-faced as they remove Max Verstappen advert after Red Bull complaint
    SKY SPORTS had to stop showing the advert after Red Bull got in touch with them on Friday.

    By ALEX MILNE
    19:20, Fri, Dec 10, 2021 | UPDATED: 19:20, Fri, Dec 10, 2021

    Sky Sports were left with no choice but to pull an advert featuring Max Verstappen following a complaint from F1 giants Red Bull. All eyes will be on Verstappen this weekend as the Dutchman goes head-to-head with Brit Lewis Hamilton in a thrilling winner-takes-all scenario in the last Grand Prix of the season in Abu Dhabi.

    But the broadcasting giant's coverage of the race did not get off to the best start after they were subject to an issue raised by Red Bull over one of their adverts.

    The advert was played as Sky showed the practice sessions on Friday, and it featured a slow-motion replay of Verstappen's massive crash at Silverstone earlier this year.

    The incident, which involved Hamilton, saw Verstappen knocked unconscious, and it was without a doubt the most severe collision of his young career.
    As the footage played on the Sky advert, a message bearing the words 'Merry Christmas' appeared on the screen.

    Red Bull clearly believed it was not appropriate, and got in touch to get it removed, which Sky promptly did.

    A source told RacingNews365.com: "A 51g crash where the driver was air-lifted to hospital being used as a Merry Christmas message is very poor taste indeed."

    https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-a...t-Abu-Dhabi-GP

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    Sky Sports F1 is broadcasting the race free of charge. No excuse to miss it.


    THANK YOU SKY SPORTS AND MERRY XMAS!
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    This is a cat and mouse race weekend. Hamilton to do his utmost to keep out of the way of Verstappen's daredevil plunge into the tight spaces at the corners. Verstappen to do his utmost to not let Hamilton disappear into the distance into an easy win. Grip position is key for Verstappen and pole would be his target in order to have the opportunity to manage the pace of the race from the front.

    Can Verstappen pull off that magical lap of Jeddah on his second opportunity in Yas Marinas

    Even so, it would be an almighty task keeping the Mercedes of Hamilton behind. Let us hope for a clean hard-fought race.
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