2021 - Race 20 Qatar

[denkimi]

Nobody seems to have mentioned the 4 flat tyres in one weekend. I assume there is a problem with the curbs somewhere.

[The Black Knight]

Nobody seems to have mentioned the 4 flat tyres in one weekend. I assume there is a problem with the curbs somewhere.

Just a normal Pirelli shit show at this stage to be honest.

[denkimi]

Just a normal Pirelli shit show at this stage to be honest.

we haven't seen much tyres fail in qualifying before. hard to imagine a tyre fails on his first or second lap just by itself.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...mvNRL7Wb4.html

“It’s not a secret that [many teams] had also damage to chassis, to the floor, to the wings, and when a tyre is worn, it’s less protected from kerbs, big impacts, high-energy impacts.

so i assume there is something to the curbs there that other tracks don't have.

[The Black Knight]

we haven't seen much tyres fail in qualifying before. hard to imagine a tyre fails on his first or second lap just by itself.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...mvNRL7Wb4.html



so i assume there is something to the curbs there that other tracks don't have.

Possibly but they still have questions to answer over Baku. Their answer of it was "the way the tires were being used" is utter tripe.

[Nitrodaze]

Nobody seems to have mentioned the 4 flat tyres in one weekend. I assume there is a problem with the curbs somewhere.

The curbs on this track are brutal. It damaged a few front wings. The abrasive track which wore down the tyres dangerously low and possibly harsh curb loads or carbon fibre from damaged wings had something to do with it. The teams that had tyre failure were believed to have run the tyres longer than was recommended by Pirelli.

The Pirelli tyres have got better but still look a bit fragile outside normal conditions.

[truefan72]

well TBH running them hard beyond their operating window is one issue.
Running them that many laps constantly over abrasive curbs is another.
The fault lies partially with the FIA for not mandating better track limits, partially with the track (only about 5%) and mainly with the teams for leaving their drivers out there too long and pushing their luck. Most 1 stoppers managed just fine. Others probably pushed them too hard on the curbs/

[denkimi]

Gasly had his puncture in quali. You know, the part where they drive with brand new tyres. Yet, they were ripped to shreds in 3 seconds.
So that had nothing to do with tyre wear or long runs.

[Nitrodaze]

Gasly had his puncture in quali. You know, the part where they drive with brand new tyres. Yet, they were ripped to shreds in 3 seconds.
So that had nothing to do with tyre wear or long runs.

Gasly's front wing broke on the curb and tucked under the car and shattered. The carbon fibre from the shattered wing was believed to be the cause of his tyre failure.

I don't remember anyone saying anything about what a great race Alonso did at Qatar. In a normal race, he started 3rd and finished 3rd ahead of Perez in the Redbull. That was a tremendous drive.

[Bagwan]

Shhh.. don't tell us, I'm enjoying this racing competition delusion thing. Merc are cutting it a bit fine though, don't you think?

The question is whether it might be seen as hubris or just confidence in their package .
But then , nobody is talking about the rocket engine they had in Monaco any more , so maybe no one will discover the sandbags they been carrying .

Now , they're being brazen and almost admitting to the whole thing by talking about the rocket in the open , assuming nobody will notice them dumping the sand just because they're in the desert .


So , yeah , it is a "bit fine" , as you say , but , pull it off and they'll get more accolades for winning a "hard fought" battle than they have had ever before in the hybrid era .

Worth it .

[Nitrodaze]

The question is whether it might be seen as hubris or just confidence in their package .
But then , nobody is talking about the rocket engine they had in Monaco any more , so maybe no one will discover the sandbags they been carrying .

Now , they're being brazen and almost admitting to the whole thing by talking about the rocket in the open , assuming nobody will notice them dumping the sand just because they're in the desert .


So , yeah , it is a "bit fine" , as you say , but , pull it off and they'll get more accolades for winning a "hard fought" battle than they have had ever before in the hybrid era .

Worth it .

You have flogged that conspiracy to death. You only have to be right if Redbull wins both championships. So what is your point? Mercedes train of wins must come to an end for you to be satisfied.

It is what it is! Pure bare-knuckle racing and the best team shall win it at Abu Dhabi.