2021 - Race 19 Brazil

[Zico]

^ Agreed.

I don't think it would surprise me if they somehow make Max's penalty more severe of the two, in the interests of the circus show.

[joe1888cfc]

Wait !
How can this be ?
Cheating maybe?

Lewis , 4 tenths ahead ?
Isn't this a Red Bull track ?

What is going on ?

Cheating

[joe1888cfc]

^ Agreed.

I don't think it would surprise me if they somehow make Max's penalty more severe of the two, in the interests of the circus show.

This would be typical of the FIA

[Fortitude]

FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRANDE PRÊMIO DE SÃO PAULO 2021 - PRACTICE 1
12 14 Nov 2021 Autódromo José Carlos Pace, São Paulo

https://www.formula1.com/en/results....ractice-1.html


FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRANDE PRÊMIO DE SÃO PAULO 2021 - QUALIFYING
12 14 Nov 2021 Autódromo José Carlos Pace, São Paulo

https://www.formula1.com/en/results....ualifying.html

[The Black Knight]

The delays make it look like a clown show IMHO. Either the wing was legal or was not. If Max did touch the car it is either a violation or not. Either or both penalties should be decided within minutes really.

It makes it look like they are milking it for the publicity, or pondering who to punish how for the sake of the championship titles. There should already be precedents in place for either of the alleged violations.

AFAIK there is only the one video with Max "touching" the wing, and it's hard to tell if he does. Hard to say if any data streaming off the Merc might catch it, or the cameras. It looked to me like he was checking out the mirror or something in that area as well.

But I'm sure either way it will stir things up regardless of what is decided.

Agreed. If it's an infringement it's an infringement but I really don't think touching the wing of a competitors car warrants a penalty.

Hamilton on the other hand should be automatically excluded from qualifying. There is precedent. It's a shame, I was really looking forward to the sprint race between the two but it's either legal or it isn't, there's no in between.

[The Black Knight]

Cheating

No I doubt it. It does explain why Bottas was suddenly so strong in qualifying recently. His spate of engine penalties have him that extra boost compared to Hamilton.

[truefan72]

Haha you guys are beyond biased. This is where this forum has jumped the shark. So let me get this straight. Hamiltons car was summoned to the stewards because there was a very minor infraction to his rear wing drs system that was off by millimeters in all likelihood because max Verstappen touched and probably tampered with his rear wing and then had his mechanic call for an investigation ( i mean who bloody touches the competitors rear wing in parc ferme like that???) with that new evidence max and the mechanic have been called into the stewards…and the general takeway from you lot is that max tampering with hamilton’s rear wing is ok, but hamilton should be banned for said rear wing infraction caused by verstappen? Ridiculous.
It is pointless to have any kind of discussion here anymore. A sad state for this forum.


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[Zico]

Haha you guys are beyond biased. This is where this forum has jumped the shark. So let me get this straight. Hamiltons car was summoned to the stewards because there was a very minor infraction to his rear wing drs system that was off by millimeters in all likelihood because max Verstappen touched and probably tampered with his rear wing and then had his mechanic call for an investigation ( i mean who bloody touches the competitors rear wing in parc ferme like that???) with that new evidence max and the mechanic have been called into the stewards…and the general takeway from you lot is that max tampering with hamilton’s rear wing is ok, but hamilton should be banned for said rear wing infraction caused by verstappen? Ridiculous.
It is pointless to have any kind of discussion here anymore. A sad state for this forum.


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So Max somehow adjusted his competitors rear wing that is designed to take huge aero forces just by touching it?

That's utterly riduculous, I think you just fully displayed your own bias

[airshifter]

Regardless of what has or hasn't been proven or disproven, it's obviously very messy behind the scenes as evidenced by the delay.

If there is absolute proof that Max touched the wing it might let Mercedes off the hook.


At this point the delays are unprofessional at best. No matter what they find they are casting doubt as to the process. While this is going on both Max and Lewis have no idea where they will be starting for the Sprint race. The head games have reached a new high, and at this point any decision will be controversial and disputed. At least everyone will have something to argue about for a while.

[denkimi]

Haha you guys are beyond biased. This is where this forum has jumped the shark. So let me get this straight. Hamiltons car was summoned to the stewards because there was a very minor infraction to his rear wing drs system that was off by millimeters in all likelihood because max Verstappen touched and probably tampered with his rear wing and then had his mechanic call for an investigation ( i mean who bloody touches the competitors rear wing in parc ferme like that???) with that new evidence max and the mechanic have been called into the stewards…and the general takeway from you lot is that max tampering with hamilton’s rear wing is ok, but hamilton should be banned for said rear wing infraction caused by verstappen? Ridiculous.
It is pointless to have any kind of discussion here anymore. A sad state for this forum.


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Nice bit of satire. lol