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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalParadox View Post
    I wonder what these comments would have looked like had Ogier not had that puncture.

    "I always knew Ogier was the GOAT"
    "There can be no more doubt!"
    etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitz View Post
    Loeb didn’t make any mistakes that I saw this weekend whereas there were a few times Ogier was a bit fortunate. That helicopter shot on the right hander where he was exceptionally close to going off on the snowy section. Also some of his cuts were a bit whoa.

    So for that reason I wasn’t surprised by the puncture.

    Loeb you could argue had the sense to hold back where he wasn’t sure.

    Interesting to note quite a bit of reference to Loeb being GOAT. Which is probably right.
    Yes, for sure Ogier drove very well and tactically, as usual. Here we always compliment him on his incredible ability to know when to take risks, avoid trouble, etc. However, this rally he found himself under pressure from his nemesis and I believe that caused him to take more than normal amount of risks and even make a jump start (very rare among Rally1 drivers) on the most critical stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalParadox View Post
    I wonder what these comments would have looked like had Ogier not had that puncture.

    "I always knew Ogier was the GOAT"
    "There can be no more doubt!"
    etc.
    At 47 years old, beating all the young guns and even if Ogier would've won I would've said the same. Ogier is the reigning champion while Loeb has been making random appearances just for fun. All the rest of the field should now take a big breath after being beaten by oldtimer.

    And don't get me wrong these mistakes happen when you're under pressure. Just that for Ogier others are childs play until Loeb steps into the game.

    It's actually quite unbelievable really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalParadox View Post
    I wonder what these comments would have looked like had Ogier not had that puncture.

    "I always knew Ogier was the GOAT"
    "There can be no more doubt!"
    etc.
    The difference is:
    if the world champion Ogier wins the rally against semi-retired 47 years old Loeb, well, nothing incredible.
    but if semi-retired 47 years old Loeb, straight after Dakar, jumps in the Puma and wins against 8 times world champion Ogier... now that's incredible, and shows what a driver he was and still is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalParadox View Post
    I wonder what these comments would have looked like had Ogier not had that puncture.

    "I always knew Ogier was the GOAT"
    "There can be no more doubt!"
    etc.
    I feel ogier would not have had his puncture and jumpstart if it wasn't for loeb. Loeb seems to be the only driver that can get under his skin and make him push over the limit.

    They are both goats, loeb just has an age advantage. Lets see what ogier will achieve in the next 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalParadox View Post
    We should all feel incredibly privileged. We're about to see Ogier and Loeb, the absolute GOATs of the sport, fighting each other with 110% of their power. On their strongest rally, their home rally.
    Things like this don't happen often.
    There is ONE absolute GOAT in the sport and then there is a retired LOSER sick crying dog that nobody will miss ever apart from a bunch of "people" (newflash: they are not humans) that the only reason they support the sick crying dog is because the absolute GOAT beat their favourite drivers again and again AND AGAIN during his reign and they feel hurt like sick dogs without an owner...

    "sometimes there is justice in the sport"

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOT View Post
    There is ONE absolute GOAT in the sport and then there is a retired LOSER sick crying dog that nobody will miss ever apart from a bunch of "people" (newflash: they are not humans) that the only reason they support the sick crying dog is because the absolute GOAT beat their favourite drivers again and again AND AGAIN during his reign and they feel hurt like sick dogs without an owner...

    "sometimes there is justice in the sport"
    Is this kind of dehumanizing language permitted around here? I don't like being called a "sick dog" just for posting a lukewarm comment in defense of Ogier. I'm not even a hardcore Ogier fan, I've always wanted Thierry to win.

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    It's just NOT, he's a bit of an idiot. I thought he was banned already long time ago, I see he's back on a new account.

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    I understand believing Loeb is better than Ogier, but calling him a "retired LOSER sick crying dog"? Like, okay...? And I got flak for saying "RIP Fourmaux" (in obvious jest), but this is okay around here?

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