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    Did someone see this.

    The ford is the only car which uses the hybrid power out of hairpins proper. When the car is straight and has no wheel slip it releases the hybrid boost. Other cars release extra boost immediately when applying power out of hairpins. So it all goes lost in wheelspin.

    In stages with less hairpins and slippery hairpins ford has more difficulty to win.

    The advantage in medium and long corners is not there because there is hardly wheel spin.

    There must be some kind of system in the ford that checks wheelspin before it releases the hybrid boost.

    Just watch wrc live and look at slippery hairpins and see when ford releases it hybrid boost and compare it to other cars.

    Maybe i am wrong but i could see the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvEvo View Post
    There must be some kind of system in the ford that checks wheelspin before it releases the hybrid boost.
    Let's hope it's not deemed illegal, as it sounds suspiciously like a sneaky traction control in principle, which I believe is not allowed in Rally1 cars.

    Or maybe the Puma drivers were just more cautious on the throttle, based on the reporting I believe the boost is tied to the throttle pedal position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubled1978 View Post
    Wonder what the odds are for Loeb to win a rally in his 50’s? Might be worth a few quid on a punt.
    Was talking with some friends yesterday, that there would be one record Loeb wouldn't get, and that's the oldest podium finisher. Then again. I wouldn't be surprised to see Loeb on the entry list for Monte Carlo 2037. He'd only be three years older than Delecour and Burri this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USER47 View Post
    Let's hope it's not deemed illegal, as it sounds suspiciously like a sneaky traction control in principle, which I believe is not allowed in Rally1 cars.

    Or maybe the Puma drivers were just more cautious on the throttle, based on the reporting I believe the boost is tied to the throttle pedal position.
    May have a mapping that delays pick-up/applies gradually/doesn't apply hybrid under a certain speed when not on launch control. That way you avoid having full power out of slow corners. They are pretty free when it comes to how to map it.

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    What if it's not mapping and just the same principle as the "kick down" you have in cars with automatic gearbox? You can easily make some mechanical resistance you need to push through, so you don't activate the hybrid by error. Just my guess but it could be so simple...

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=884yfLRcuRg

    Amazing video from Passats. Check Ogier @ 30s!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    What if it's not mapping and just the same principle as the "kick down" you have in cars with automatic gearbox? You can easily make some mechanical resistance you need to push through, so you don't activate the hybrid by error. Just my guess but it could be so simple...
    thats right.You can control boost pressure accordingly and have almost same effects.
    ie like antilag mappings.

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    De Villers video with top speeds
    https://youtu.be/AlQ9HFx4h-E

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny0405 View Post
    But most impressive for me was Cais’ consistency for a 1st time here. Even if he is too young for WRC-2 Open title (and too much-tarmac centered). Surprised to see best Czech prospect for a while against Skoda.
    It looks like Skoda are going with Stritesky who made some eye catching times in the Czech Championship early last year but at this stage Cais is definitely a more complete and impressive driver. I don't know if he wanted to not go the Skoda route or if Skoda wouldn't consider him because he drives with a Ford but it looks like a missed opportunity for them right now.. perhaps some Czech guys can fill us in?

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    2022 Rallye Monte-Carlo - Transcript of the post-event press conference organised by the FIA

    https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-s-loeb-...re-we-expected

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