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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    I meant to say half of their budget set aside for developing this seasons car not the 22 car.
    Horner talked about a £2.5m figure in one of the videos about it putting a huge dent in their development finances but if he's wrong on that you should call him and tell him. I'd have thought he'd know his figures though.

    The Merc wings bend too is your self defeating argument? Doesn't that make it even more pathetic?

    Re- the pit stop rule change, Wolff admitted they 'may' have had a part in bringing in the rule change but denied it was aimed at slowing down RB.

    https://www.racefans.net/2021/06/25/...es-last-month/
    Mercedes made an inquiry about a safety mechanism they use and optimising it. To suggest they somehow orchestrated it is a very far stretch and looks pretty desperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    I meant to say half of their budget set aside for developing this seasons car not the 22 car.
    Horner talked about a £2.5m figure in one of the videos about it putting a huge dent in their development finances but if he's wrong on that you should call him and tell him. I'd have thought he'd know his figures though.

    The Merc wings bend too is your self defeating argument? Doesn't that make it even more pathetic?

    Re- the pit stop rule change, Wolff admitted they 'may' have had a part in bringing in the rule change but denied it was aimed at slowing down RB.

    https://www.racefans.net/2021/06/25/...es-last-month/
    Well, you are effectively saying Redbull plans to spend about 2% of the $145 million on developing this year's car. Stop while you are ahead buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Knight View Post
    Mercedes made an inquiry about a safety mechanism they use and optimising it. To suggest they somehow orchestrated it is a very far stretch and looks pretty desperate.
    So it was a sheer coincidence, despite very recently losing out to RB's faster pitstops... and its purely a safety mechanism because we cant have wheels flying off can we, even though that hasn't been an issue at all as of late. No ulterior motives here at all guv.. honest.


    https://www.planetf1.com/news/merced...ull-advantage/

    Dismiss Marko all you want but I reckon if it was Merc saying that, you'd believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    Well, you are effectively saying Redbull plans to spend about 2% of the $145 million on developing this year's car. Stop while you are ahead buddy.

    Well Merc said they didn't intend to spend/develop any more upgrades on the 21 car and are putting the development pot into the 22 car instead, why is it so difficult for you to believe similar for RB too? So are they both lying.. or just Red Bull?

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    Red Bull fail with Hamilton penalty review – report
    Date published: July 29 2021 - Jon Wilde

    Red Bull have reportedly failed in their attempt to have a greater penalty imposed on Lewis Hamilton for his Silverstone collision with Max Verstappen.

    https://www.planetf1.com/news/red-bu...enalty-review/


    Verstappen appreciates Red Bull: "Confirms that I'm with the right team"
    29-07-2021 18:54 | Updated: 29-07-2021 19:04
    by GPblog.com

    …Verstappen is particularly pleased with his team's response.

    "How Red Bull reacted after Silverstone and how everyone handled everything confirms to me that I'm really with the right team. They go through the fire for me and I got calls and messages from everyone. The warmth I feel in our team is something you won't see in another team soon, I think."

    https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/90269...ight-team.html


    Protest Red Bull unsuccessful; no heavier penalty for Hamilton
    29-07-2021 17:05 | Updated: 29-07-2021 17:07
    by GPblog.com

    FIA does not go along with Red Bull
    Red Bull's protest was unsuccessful however. The FIA does not accept the protest of Verstappen's team and Hamilton will not be given a heavier penalty. According to the stewards, Red Bull did not provide significant additional evidence, as reported by Telegraaf journalist Erik van Haaren on Twitter.

    https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/90259...-hamilton.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    So it was a sheer coincidence, despite very recently losing out to RB's faster pitstops... and its purely a safety mechanism because we cant have wheels flying off can we, even though that hasn't been an issue at all as of late. No ulterior motives here at all guv.. honest.


    https://www.planetf1.com/news/merced...ull-advantage/

    Dismiss Marko all you want but I reckon if it was Merc saying that, you'd believe it.
    Marko isn't exactly the most reliable mouthpiece- take everything he says with a pinch of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    Well Merc said they didn't intend to spend/develop any more upgrades on the 21 car and are putting the development pot into the 22 car instead, why is it so difficult for you to believe similar for RB too? So are they both lying.. or just Red Bull?
    It has been pretty clear that RBR have been bringing more development updates to their car in recent races. Mercedes afaik are not bringing anymore after Silverstone this season. Given 8 years without a title I think they are willing to sacrifice some performance for next year. On the other hand, with 7 titles in the bag, it's not as big a deal for Mercedes if they lose one to have a couple years of further dominance from next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    Well Merc said they didn't intend to spend/develop any more upgrades on the 21 car and are putting the development pot into the 22 car instead, why is it so difficult for you to believe similar for RB too? So are they both lying.. or just Red Bull?
    I think the cost of next seasons car is out of next season's budget.

    BTW, the stewards threw out Redbulls request for a heavier penalty for Hamilton. What a waste of the steward's time eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    BTW, the stewards threw out Redbulls request for a heavier penalty for Hamilton. What a waste of the steward's time eh?
    I've never seen something this desperate and ridiculous. and the FIA statement pretty much echoes that sentiment with their ruling.
    RBR should be ashamed of themselves and I'm pretty sure they aren't making any friends in the paddock.
    We will see what happens when Max or Sergio are involved in a racing incident and how other teams will respond to them.
    Probably nowhere close to these ridiculous heights.
    Also, Verstappen doesn't seem to have learned anything with his comments earlier today.
    you can't argue with results.

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    Red Bull would walk through fire for me says Verstappen
    JULY 30, 2021

    Max Verstappen says the saga following his 51G crash at Silverstone has only reinforced his notion that "I'm on the right team".

    https://www.grandprix.com/news/red-b...erstappen.html


    Red Bull reaction proves Max is with ‘right team’
    Date published: July 30 2021 - Michelle Foster

    Max Verstappen says the way Red Bull rallied around him after his British GP crash is proof that he is with the “right team”.

    Although the Dutchman has a long-term contract with Red Bull that runs until the end of the 2023 season, rumours that Mercedes want to sign him are still whispered around the paddock.

    That, though, potentially ended last time out at Silverstone.

    https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-ve...ll-right-team/


    F1 spat spices up as Max Verstappen slams 'disrespectful' Lewis Hamilton
    JEROME PUGMIRE12:26, Jul 30 2021

    Formula One has a bitter rivalry developing with Max Verstappen labelling Lewis Hamilton's victory celebrations at the British Grand Prix “really disrespectful'' considering he was in the hospital after being knocked out of the race by him.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motors...lewis-hamilton


    MARTIN SAMUEL: Lewis Hamilton's feud with Max Verstappen is GREAT for Formula One... after the rivals clashed spectacularly at Silverstone, the rematch in Budapest is capturing the imagination just like Ayrton Senna's famous rivalry with Alain Prost

    • Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen collided early on at the British Grand Prix

    • The Red Bull star was upset by Hamilton's elaborate celebrations at Silverstone

    • The rivals are set for a rematch at the Hungarian Grand Prix this weekend

    • Memories of Ayrton Senna's rivalry with Alain Prost are brewing this season


    By Martin Samuel - Sport for the Daily Mail
    Published: 22:30, 29 July 2021 | Updated: 01:05, 30 July 2021

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...rmula-One.html
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