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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    The right pic wqas just after the contact. You can clearly see the Redbull was beginning to spin. Have a look at Karun Chandhoks analysis of the incident on the skysport website.
    I've watched karuns analysis on it. Doesn't mean I've got to agree with him. You think the British commentators are going to blame their golden boy at the British GP.
    Sky sports F1 are all Lewis fanboys and constantly hanging out his arse.
    At least button and Coulthard called it right saying it was Lewis's fault as did the stewards
    But you keep arguing for Lewis, that's fine mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corky View Post
    Wheel to wheel aggressive racing. Two of the top competitors, doing what needs to be done to get the lead. No malice intended by either, just a racing incident. If it deserves a penalty by the steward’s determination, so be it. And, let’s be consistent.
    Consistency has been the biggest challenge of the F1M Stewarding office. Their decisions as been as variable as the English weather. No two driver has experienced the same punishment for the same infraction. Also, they appear to have a springloaded compunction to award penalties. Especially according to the sensation of the incident.

    I personally think this department of the F1 is not fit for the job of administrating the racing incidents of F1. A separate independent body should be set up to do this work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe1888cfc View Post
    I've watched karuns analysis on it. Doesn't mean I've got to agree with him. You think the British commentators are going to blame their golden boy at the British GP.
    Sky sports F1 are all Lewis fanboys and constantly hanging out his arse.
    At least button and Coulthard called it right saying it was Lewis's fault as did the stewards
    But you keep arguing for Lewis, that's fine mate.

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    No l am not solely arguing for Hamilton. I am arguing that it is a shared fault. You cannot absolve Verstappen from his share of the blame. In the previous corner, Hamilton gave him a wide berth at the corner to ensure they did not crash. It is not unreasonable for Hamilton to expect Verstappen to return the courtesy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    No l am not solely arguing for Hamilton. I am arguing that it is a shared fault. You cannot absolve Verstappen from his share of the blame. In the previous corner, Hamilton gave him a wide berth at the corner to ensure they did not crash. It is not unreasonable for Hamilton to expect Verstappen to return the courtesy.
    Hamilton didn't give a wide berth, he took a different line to get a better exit in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe1888cfc View Post
    Hamilton didn't give a wide berth, he took a different line to get a better exit in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    That is what a wide berth is matey.
    Not to stay out of Max's way though and avoid a crash though was it matey, do u know racing?

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    Verstappen Sr fans flames by claiming Hamilton should have been disqualified
    GPFans Staff
    Monday 19 July 2021 13:49 - Updated: 13:49

    Max Verstappen's father Jos has poured fuel on the fire of the debate surrounding the Red Bull driver's British Grand Prix collision with Lewis Hamilton by claiming the seven-time F1 champion should have been disqualified.
    Verstappen was released from Coventry hospital at 10pm on Sunday evening after being given the all-clear following a range of scans and tests after his 150mph, 51g impact with a tyre barrier at Silverstone's Copse corner.
    The Dutch driver was left shaken up by the crash after he and Hamilton had banged wheels through the 180mph right-hander that sent him spearing off into the tyre wall.

    https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/67...-disqualified/


    Marko wants Hamilton banned, Horner slams 'desperate' Verstappen move
    Ben Issatt 19 July 2021

    https://insideracing.com/formula-1/1...erstappen-move


    Horner: Hamilton put a fellow driver in hospital

    The Red Bull team principal believes Hamilton's collision with Max Verstappen at the British Grand Prix was a desperate move.

    https://racingnews365.com/horner-ham...er-in-hospital


    Verstappen attacks ‘unsporting’ Hamilton after crashing out of British GP
    July 19, 2021

    https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/0...of-british-gp/


    Formula One: Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton shift feud up a gear
    War of words after collision at British Grand Prix
    Published: July 19, 2021 11:16 Matthew Smith, Sports Editor

    https://gulfnews.com/sport/motorspor...ear-1.80754473


    Christian Horner accuses Toto Wolff of 'unacceptable' actions after Max Verstappen crash
    Christian Horner has hit out at his Mercedes counterpart after Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen crashed at the British Grand Prix.
    By Claire Cottingham
    PUBLISHED: 12:31, Mon, Jul 19, 2021 | UPDATED: 15:10, Mon, Jul 19, 2021

    https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-a...rstappen-crash


    Verstappen crash - Fan footage reveals ferocity of impact at Copse
    Ewan Gale
    Monday 19 July 2021 14:49 - Updated: 14:51

    https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/67...pact-at-copse/


    Lewis Hamilton's British GP celebration called 'disrespectful' by Max Verstappen after crash
    Written By Joe Rivera

    For Max Verstappen, Lewis Hamilton's celebrations were a load of bull.
    Verstappen, current F1 driver's championship leader, landed in the hospital as a precautionary measure after a devastating wreck on Lap 1 of Sunday's 2021 British Grand Prix at Silverstone, much to the chagrin of Red Bull and F1 fans everywhere.

    Hamilton went on to win the race and celebrated non-stop with fans at the track afterward — which Verstappen clearly had an issue with. The Red Bull racer took to social media to deliver a wreck of his own to the Mercedes racer:

    "Glad I'm ok. Very disappointed with being taken out like this. The penalty given does not help us and doesn't do justice to the dangerous move Lewis made on track. Watching the celebrations while still in hospital is disrespectful and unsportsmanlike behavior but we move on," Verstappen's tweet reads.

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/athl...n146wgfe2y1g58

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe1888cfc View Post
    I didn't say he should be hurt or killed, you've put words in my mouth, I said I wanted him into the wall. How you got I wanted him hurt or killed from that I don't know. I'd never want to see someone hurt or killed even if it's the driver I dislike the most. I'd love to see him try another move and come off worse and go into the wall.

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    From your response , I can see it was clearly not your intent , but it is how I understood your initial posts .

    You said Max was nearly killed , and then said Lewis should be put in the wall .
    Then , when I indicated that wasn't cool , you doubled down .


    Perhaps you can understand why you were misunderstood .

    Anyway , welcome to the forum , if I haven't said that yet .

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe1888cfc View Post
    Not to stay out of Max's way though and avoid a crash though was it matey, do u know racing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortitude View Post
    Verstappen Sr fans flames by claiming Hamilton should have been disqualified
    GPFans Staff
    Monday 19 July 2021 13:49 - Updated: 13:49

    Max Verstappen's father Jos has poured fuel on the fire of the debate surrounding the Red Bull driver's British Grand Prix collision with Lewis Hamilton by claiming the seven-time F1 champion should have been disqualified.
    Verstappen was released from Coventry hospital at 10pm on Sunday evening after being given the all-clear following a range of scans and tests after his 150mph, 51g impact with a tyre barrier at Silverstone's Copse corner.
    The Dutch driver was left shaken up by the crash after he and Hamilton had banged wheels through the 180mph right-hander that sent him spearing off into the tyre wall.

    https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/67...-disqualified/


    Marko wants Hamilton banned, Horner slams 'desperate' Verstappen move
    Ben Issatt 19 July 2021

    https://insideracing.com/formula-1/1...erstappen-move


    Horner: Hamilton put a fellow driver in hospital

    The Red Bull team principal believes Hamilton's collision with Max Verstappen at the British Grand Prix was a desperate move.

    https://racingnews365.com/horner-ham...er-in-hospital


    Verstappen attacks ‘unsporting’ Hamilton after crashing out of British GP
    July 19, 2021

    https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/0...of-british-gp/


    Formula One: Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton shift feud up a gear
    War of words after collision at British Grand Prix
    Published: July 19, 2021 11:16 Matthew Smith, Sports Editor

    https://gulfnews.com/sport/motorspor...ear-1.80754473


    Christian Horner accuses Toto Wolff of 'unacceptable' actions after Max Verstappen crash
    Christian Horner has hit out at his Mercedes counterpart after Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen crashed at the British Grand Prix.
    By Claire Cottingham
    PUBLISHED: 12:31, Mon, Jul 19, 2021 | UPDATED: 15:10, Mon, Jul 19, 2021

    https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-a...rstappen-crash


    Verstappen crash - Fan footage reveals ferocity of impact at Copse
    Ewan Gale
    Monday 19 July 2021 14:49 - Updated: 14:51

    https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/67...pact-at-copse/


    Lewis Hamilton's British GP celebration called 'disrespectful' by Max Verstappen after crash
    Written By Joe Rivera

    For Max Verstappen, Lewis Hamilton's celebrations were a load of bull.
    Verstappen, current F1 driver's championship leader, landed in the hospital as a precautionary measure after a devastating wreck on Lap 1 of Sunday's 2021 British Grand Prix at Silverstone, much to the chagrin of Red Bull and F1 fans everywhere.

    Hamilton went on to win the race and celebrated non-stop with fans at the track afterward — which Verstappen clearly had an issue with. The Red Bull racer took to social media to deliver a wreck of his own to the Mercedes racer:

    "Glad I'm ok. Very disappointed with being taken out like this. The penalty given does not help us and doesn't do justice to the dangerous move Lewis made on track. Watching the celebrations while still in hospital is disrespectful and unsportsmanlike behavior but we move on," Verstappen's tweet reads.

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/athl...n146wgfe2y1g58
    All the emotional outrage of Redbull and its affiliates.

    Maybe, they should just take his racing licence so that Verstappen can win the title with ease.

    These are the most shameless reactions l have ever witnessed in F1. You would almost think there has never been a crash resulting from wheel to wheel racing ever in F1 or any other motorsport.

    As far as these clowns are concerned, no one should race Verstappen. You are all expected to back off and don't give him too much of a fight.
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