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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nKS View Post
    Vettel hit with 3 spot penalty.
    I really think Seb got screwed on this one. Watching the on board, I was like everyone else, wondering what he was thinking. Watching the overhead view drivers tracker, Seb and Sergio accelerated when they could, and the real problem were in front of them. At a bare minimum, from Bottas back should have a penalty if Seb does. And really more of the field should probably. Without setting a delta time, they are allowing drivers to slow way too much and bunch up the pack. It really goes all the way back to Leclerc and Max, and gets even worse after them.


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    Other than that rant, absolute monster lap by Norris, pushing the car right to the edge IMHO. Well deserved front row start. And Russell as well, we know that Williams doesn't belong in the top 10 with most drivers. The reds are hurting, the AT cars both in the top, and the Aston's doing well on pace also.

    It seem like track temp is going to play a big role in pace, and it should be interesting to see who 1 stops and who 2 stops.



    Really Lando was the only one just appearing to try to get on with it. Everyone else to some extent seemed to be playing the "hold them up" game, and a good portion of the pack caused the mess that Seb is going to pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airshifter View Post
    I really think Seb got screwed on this one. Watching the on board, I was like everyone else, wondering what he was thinking. Watching the overhead view drivers tracker, Seb and Sergio accelerated when they could, and the real problem were in front of them. At a bare minimum, from Bottas back should have a penalty if Seb does. And really more of the field should probably. Without setting a delta time, they are allowing drivers to slow way too much and bunch up the pack. It really goes all the way back to Leclerc and Max, and gets even worse after them.


    Stolen from another place......

    https://streamable.com/xfblsj





    Other than that rant, absolute monster lap by Norris, pushing the car right to the edge IMHO. Well deserved front row start. And Russell as well, we know that Williams doesn't belong in the top 10 with most drivers. The reds are hurting, the AT cars both in the top, and the Aston's doing well on pace also.

    It seem like track temp is going to play a big role in pace, and it should be interesting to see who 1 stops and who 2 stops.



    Really Lando was the only one just appearing to try to get on with it. Everyone else to some extent seemed to be playing the "hold them up" game, and a good portion of the pack caused the mess that Seb is going to pay for.
    Yeah I was watching this as it unfolded and knew Alonso was going to get screwed. I think it looks like Bottas gives too much of a gap to Russell and it cascades from there but it's all fine margins.

    There's a way for the FIA to sort all of this, fixed time slots. Every driver does two runs in Q3, has a timeslot and fixed lap time to get round the track before their qualifying lap begins based on their Q2 finishing position. They don't make it, they lose their Q3 run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Knight View Post
    Yeah I was watching this as it unfolded and knew Alonso was going to get screwed. I think it looks like Bottas gives too much of a gap to Russell and it cascades from there but it's all fine margins.

    There's a way for the FIA to sort all of this, fixed time slots. Every driver does two runs in Q3, has a timeslot and fixed lap time to get round the track before their qualifying lap begins based on their Q2 finishing position. They don't make it, they lose their Q3 run.
    Or you just give a minimum lap time or face a 3 lap penalty and you stop it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nKS View Post
    Or you just give a minimum lap time or face a 3 lap penalty and you stop it all.
    Minimum lap time won't cut it when two cars head out simultaneously

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    Norris, 5 sec penalty.. Have it one way or have it the other but don't change it depending on who it is to manipulate the race/championship. Where is the consistency? Surprised at Warwick..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zico View Post
    Norris, 5 sec penalty.. Have it one way or have it the other but don't change it depending on who it is to manipulate the race/championship. Where is the consistency? Surprised at Warwick..
    BS penalty on Norris. Perez was stupid and was punished by the track. Perez just needed to be patient.

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    Perez day just got worse with 5 second penalty for not being able to beat a Ferrari.

    Just when you think that Perez has figured it out what his role is he has a race day like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nKS View Post
    BS penalty on Norris. Perez was stupid and was punished by the track. Perez just needed to be patient.
    You are required to leave enough track for a competitor who you know is right beside you .
    It's that simple .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan View Post
    You are required to leave enough track for a competitor who you know is right beside you .
    It's that simple .
    Are you still hanging on to your conspiracy theory Baggie? Surely you see now that Mercedes is in trouble.
    Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    Are you still hanging on to your conspiracy theory Baggie? Surely you see now that Mercedes is in trouble.
    If Mercedes is not able to bounce back in England in 2 weeks, then I will agree with you that Mercedes is in trouble.

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