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    To me getting stuck is sort of a part of Safari...in the old days you could get stuck in a river crossing or a mudhole for an hour, that's basically same as 10 minutes of penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    The low amount of entries outside of Kenya is imo a combination of COVID, dates in calendar (one week after one ERC round and one week before another, Sardinia and Estonia also quite close) as well as Rally2 entries not knowing what to expect. Guess most expect retirement lottery and therefore nobody came. I would expect more Rally2 entries next year (say 6-8 instead of 2 this year), but it will off course never be as packed as a European round.
    And also proximity of Sardegna and Estonia, especially for a privateer, and considering quarantines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    To me getting stuck is sort of a part of Safari...in the old days you could get stuck in a river crossing or a mudhole for an hour, that's basically same as 10 minutes of penalty.
    On a 5000km endurance rally getting stuck for an hour is no immense problem. On a 300km sprint that should not happen.

    Especially not when drivers get penalised for driving next to the road. If we allow undrivable roads we should also allow drivers to not use them.

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    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier...nt-as-drivers/ Ogier and Tanak liked the Safari adventure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    On a 5000km endurance rally getting stuck for an hour is no immense problem. On a 300km sprint that should not happen.
    As we can see, no one got stuck for an hour in this Safari. Tow trucks were present at the worst places, and their usage was permitted. Getting stuck just resulted in some minutes of time loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    As we can see, no one got stuck for an hour in this Safari. Tow trucks were present at the worst places, and their usage was permitted. Getting stuck just resulted in some minutes of time loss.
    Even 5 minutes is too long on such a short event.

    Either ist endurance, and then they need a lot more km's to make it so. Or its sprint and then staying on the normal tracks should not make you get stuck.

    Rovanpera should have been given a notional time, just like all the others, because it was due to the conditions of the road. Just like when another car blocks the road or a fence is closed. It's beyond the competitor to do anything about it, so they should not be punished for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    Even 5 minutes is too long on such a short event.

    Either ist endurance, and then they need a lot more km's to make it so. Or its sprint and then staying on the normal tracks should not make you get stuck.

    Rovanpera should have been given a notional time, just like all the others, because it was due to the conditions of the road. Just like when another car blocks the road or a fence is closed. It's beyond the competitor to do anything about it, so they should not be punished for it.
    He was the only car that got stuck. Toyota should've raised the ride height and Kalle should'nt have slowed down so much (although I understand why he did)

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    WRC Safari Rally 2021 has attracted over 848 million TV viewers in 150 countries, making it one of the most watched global events this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    To me getting stuck is sort of a part of Safari...in the old days you could get stuck in a river crossing or a mudhole for an hour, that's basically same as 10 minutes of penalty.
    The difference then was you could get outside assistance and service at stage side and from your team helicopter. No-one ever retired just by getting stuck or a car breakage other than a blown engine.

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