Pirelli tyres

[mknight]

Yep when Tanak and Latvala cut as the only two top drivers in Corsica and get a puncture it's the fault of the rim.
(Meeke and others had "don't cut" and Latvala even said it at the end that he shouldn't have cut).

EDIT: Btw. Evans in Fiesta lost the win due to puncture on PS there. But yeah Toyota did some rim redesign.

Anyway besides trolling...

Turkey 2020 is the best comparison cause the Michelin tire was used for ages, yet "all" drivers got a puncture in the stage.

I think last year Antti showed some stats comparing punctures on Michelin and Pirelli with 2017+ cars and it was the same.

Sure, maybe with Rally1 there are more punctures, but it's also a different car with much more hp and more weight. So following the previous logic we should blame FIA right?

[doubled1978]

Maybe someone can tell me, but with a control tyre why do they not go back to using the mousse?
Surely it would make more sense than competing against themselves and getting bad press.

That said some of the guys taking only 5 tyres on Friday afternoon was a plain stupid.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/w...ures/10310630/

[flat_right]

Let's do a quick + and -

Mousse tyres
+ Basically no punctures! Sometimes crews even don't know if they had one.
+ Drives can battle to the end (Ogier in Monte 2022, Ott tens of times throughout his career etc)
+ Because of intense battles, better publicity for the whole WRC
+ Because of few punctures, better publicity for tyre manufacturer
+ Improved safety for crews and also for spectators (going out because of tyre failure)
+ Softer tyre compounds = better grip, improved speed through the corners = more spectacular
+ Can carry only one spare = less fuel consumption = better for the environment
+ No bodywork damages because of tyres teared to rags destroying cars

- Increased cost

How to save costs?
> Maybe use them only for rough rallies like Greece, Turkey, Sardegna, Portugal... for smoother tarmac and gravel events let's use regular tyres
> Why do we need to use two compounds? Just use one compound and I think already this saves a lot of money (making tyres + transportation). No one ever knows what you have under the car.

[TypeR]

Weird to talk about increased costs.. when teams spend tens of millions (incl 1mil eur cars) to compete and win rallies..

multiple ,,out of nowhere'' punctures cost teams more(parts and point wise) than some mousse.
If not damaged, could be used again?

[doubled1978]

Well yeah, I sort of understood when it was a competition between tyre brands to control the cost etc. but the technology already exists and would reduce the negative press, and stop the punctures having a big influence on the result.
Makes no sense to me that it isn’t back in use.

[pantealex]

Tyre strategy is part of rallying, so 2 different compounds is needed.

with mousse tyres we would see much more anticutting poles...

[AnttiL]

Tyre strategy is part of rallying, so 2 different compounds is needed.

with mousse tyres we would see much more anticutting poles...

with mousse tyres we would see much more cut up roads in the rough rallies, seeing more punctures in WRC2 and WRC3/JWRC (assuming they would not be able to use mousse)

[Sulland]

What was the cost of a mousse tyre back when it was in use?

What would you guess the price would be today?

[focus206]

Pirelli is not the only tyre manufacturer being criticized in motorsport in these days: the two WTCR (the World Touring Car Cup) races on the Nurburgring Nordschleife were cancelled today after numerous punctures of Goodyear tyres in practice and qualifying.
I wouldn't expect such poor performances by well estabilished tyre manufacturers such as Pirelli or Goodyear, I don't get it...