Pirelli tyres

[Sulland]

How are the Pirelli rally tyres proving themselves so far?

Do we need 3 gravel hadnesses for the drivers to choose from?

[Sulland]

Why not have 4 hardmesses in both asphalt and graveltyres.
Extra soft, Soft, Medium and Hard.

This will make choices harder for drivers, some will be better at choosing the right one for them at different sufaces, length of ss, temps, and so on.
We will see more differences from teams and drivers during a rally, so more changes in top 10 every day.

[Mirek]

Why not having twenty like fifteen years ago?

It's clearly meant to reduce cost. Four different tyre compounds are twice more than two. You need to produce, carry and pay twice more.

[mknight]

Why not have 4 hardmesses in both asphalt and graveltyres.
Extra soft, Soft, Medium and Hard.

This will make choices harder for drivers, some will be better at choosing the right one for them at different sufaces, length of ss, temps, and so on.
We will see more differences from teams and drivers during a rally, so more changes in top 10 every day.

To make the choice matter there needs to be a large step between the tires. I am not sure that's easily done for a rally stage that is always a mixed surface. Last 2,5 years with Michelin the 3 gravel compounds seemed to make the choice much easier cause even if people picked wrong the difference wasn't so big.

[ictus]

there is no need for so many compounds for gravel. Sometimes you can use the same compound on dry and wet.

[JRodrigues]

https://press.pirelli.com/pirelli-sc...ally-portugal/

A somewhat delusional report after this rally

PIRELLI’S LATEST SCORPION GRAVEL TYRES ENSURE RELIABILITY AND PERFORMANCE EVEN IN EXTREME CONDITIONS
FRIDAY’S ROUGH STAGES CHALLENGE THE TYRE STRUCTURE, LOW GRIP OVER THE WEEKEND TESTS THE HARD AND SOFT COMPOUNDS
ANOTHER NEW CHALLENGE AWAITS THE SCORPION ON THE NEXT ROUND IN SARDINIA, IN HIGHER TEMPERATURES ON DRY GRAVEL.


Pirelli’s new Scorpion KX WRC tyres for the latest hybrid Rally1 cars, an evolution of the previous gravel product, had a positive debut on Rally Portugal. Both the hard and soft versions proved reliable in all conditions, on a rally where the first day in particular proved to be tougher than expected. On Friday afternoon, the rocky stages were practically destroyed after the first passage of around 100 cars: making what was already a tricky event almost impassable. Sandy and slippery surfaces with variable weather conditions, including rain, characterised the remaining two days.

On Saturday the challenge lay in the contrast between slippery stages, which needed the soft tyre, and long stages such as Amarante (repeated in the afternoon) that required the hard. This gave rise to a wide variety of strategies in which it sometimes paid to take a calculated risk: particularly for drivers who had chosen the hard Scorpion HA compound. On a rainy Sunday, the soft version of the Scorpion was the tyre to have, ensuring performance and reliability throughout all the stages.

Tyre strategy and management was decisive to the outcome, with Toyota driver Kalle Rovanpera winning from team mate Elfyn Evans following a tight battle.

Terenzio Testoni, Pirelli Rally Activity Manager, said: “We learn something new from every event and set of circumstances. What we take home from Portugal is confirmation that our new tyres can face the most extreme and unexpected conditions, such as those on Friday: the longest and most challenging day of the rally, where we saw numerous incidents – just as could be expected with these road conditions. This comes as no surprise, as it is all part of the sport. Now our new Scorpions face their next big test on abrasive gravel in Sardinia in just two weeks, where we can expect higher temperatures and more stable weather. ”

Citroen’s Yohan Rossel won RC2. In the WRC Junior category, victory went to Finland’s Sami Pajari. Two one-make series from Toyota and Peugeot also competed on Rally Portugal this weekend, equipped with Pirelli tyres.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So the two fastest guys, Rovanpera and Evans, had no punctures in Portugal. Were they lucky or just drove better to avoid them ?

With the Pirelli tyres, do they actually puncture more, as in getting holed by stones... or are they more 'coming off the rim' (and often due to wheel damage) ?

[EstWRC]

what i have noticed that Ogier and Tänak have more punctures since Pirelli came

at least i dont remember them having so often with Michelin, especially Ogier

[mknight]

What I have noticed is that everytime there is a puncture with Pirelli it's "Pirellis fault" and nobody ever hits anything. (FX even made fun of how rallydrivers never hit anything, even when they have a wheel missing).

When there were punctures with Michelin (say Turkey 2020, Toyotas in 2019), the roads, FIA, or rims were to blame, with Pirelli it's always the producer.

[EstWRC]

Toyota admitted themselves that it was the rims fault back in the day

and funny how everybody brings up Turkey 2020 but nothing else from the past