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    Quote Originally Posted by TypeR View Post
    SS9/13 Already cancelled..
    reason: reindeer herds.

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rally...e-of-reindeer/
    Why am I not surpriced. These are the same gang that held up the process of getting stages approved locally.
    Now suddenly they have to move reindeer just under the rally!! Not before and not after, but just under the rally.

    My guess is the following; Some of the sami people was not happy in the way they they were treated, or did not agree with the solution that was agreed.
    So they trump their solution, to make as much mess as possible.

    I worked up north in Norway for 6 years, in the armed forces.
    When we were arranging exercises we called infommeetings for the locals, including the sami reindees organisations.

    when we gave them the dates, they always complained, and even if we agreed that they should keep the animals out of the ex area in this period, you can be 100% sure some of them moved the animals into the ex area.

    After the ex we always got claims from them, that the shooting and sound of tanks and other heavy machinery had some of the best reindeers died from stress. Same every year. In the end some of us wanted to give them the wrong area to see what happened. But we were never given a thumbs up from the boss!

    The hardliners in the sami population feels they own the land and water in the whole area up north, and some of the them acts as if this were true.

    Often the smartest way is to give them parts of what they want in negotiations, and give them something they can make money from every year. Then you can win them over!

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    This is the area they control, SS9 is close to Bjurholm...
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...by_vapsten.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by erikli2 View Post
    Agree. I´ve done Östersund Winter Rally four times, great roads and always perfect conditions. We did meet a deer on a stage though
    We did too. 2005, 2006.
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    Now the official website has a more detailed presentation of the SS 1/4 and parking spaces there.
    https://rallysweden.com/en/stage/ss-1-4-kroksjo/

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    is the shakedown one of the longest during recent years? proper one with 7.59km

    also, watching the timetable it seems some guys will get through SS5 during daylight and later guys during dark
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    It's a long one indeed. Last year Ypres had a longer shakedown, nearly 10km.
    SS5 will be in daylight for all WRC drivers I think.
    Quite a lot of stages in the dark actually, roughly 50km for the Rally1 drivers and 80 for almost everyone else.

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    Shakedown is also crazy fast…maybe four non-flat corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Shakedown is also crazy fast…maybe four non-flat corners.
    Only if you're stuck in third gear... Many fast but definitely not all flat out.

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    Flat minus maybe but only a few slow corners, three of them junctions.

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    Lappi “fine” accepting Toyota team orders in Sweden

    Esapekka Lappi could be a victory contender in Sweden but accepts he'll need to make way for team-mates if asked
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/lappi...ers-in-sweden/

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