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    WRC Rally Acropolis Greece 2021

    https://www.rally-maps.com/Fthiotidos-Rally-2021
    https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Korinthou-2021

    These local rallies contain four of the Acropolis stages (Aghii Theodori, Loutraki, Pavliani and Pyrgos). In Finland it would be outrageous to have a local rally on a Rally Finland stage before it...Pavliani was repaired smooth because of this local rally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    https://www.rally-maps.com/Fthiotidos-Rally-2021
    https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Korinthou-2021

    These local rallies contain four of the Acropolis stages (Aghii Theodori, Loutraki, Pavliani and Pyrgos). In Finland it would be outrageous to have a local rally on a Rally Finland stage before it...Pavliani was repaired smooth because of this local rally?
    Greek rally drivers are laughable... they need these rallies so they do not get ridiculed by village tourists that will be there... and given all the illegal recce they will do before the event they might have a good chance not to be ridiculed that much...

    imagine that hamburger boy Serderidis is considered a good rally driver by greek rally reporters...

    The only thing funnier than greek rally drivers are finnish rally fans waiting for a finnish rally champion again... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOT View Post
    Greek rally drivers are laughable... they need these rallies so they do not get ridiculed by village tourists that will be there... and given all the illegal recce they will do before the event they might have a good chance not to be ridiculed that much...

    imagine that hamburger boy Serderidis is considered a good rally driver by greek rally reporters...

    The only thing funnier than greek rally drivers are finnish rally fans waiting for a finnish rally champion again... lol
    Calling Serderidis hamburger boy is an insult to the main man Duval.

    Francois could at least drive properly in the first place
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    https://www.rally-maps.com/Fthiotidos-Rally-2021
    https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Korinthou-2021

    These local rallies contain four of the Acropolis stages (Aghii Theodori, Loutraki, Pavliani and Pyrgos). In Finland it would be outrageous to have a local rally on a Rally Finland stage before it...Pavliani was repaired smooth because of this local rally?
    Rally Corinth will be held without spectators (or at least this is what the announcement says).
    I am wondering what kind of protocol prohibits watching a rally in an OPEN SPACE while there are no other restrictions in Greece in open spaces? Millions of people are gathered each weekend on the beaches but we cannot watch a rally IN A FOREST??
    What is the problem with these people?!!


    So if a rally that attracts 1/100 of spectators of Acropolis rally in the middle of the summer and uses some of Acropolis SS is held without spectators, that means that Acropolis Rally that will be held in the beginning of autumn will also be held without spectators???
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    Quote Originally Posted by bomber21 View Post
    Rally Corinth will be held without spectators (or at least this is what the announcement says).
    I am wondering what kind of protocol prohibits watching a rally in an OPEN SPACE while there are no other restrictions in Greece in open spaces? Millions of people are gathered each weekend on the beaches but we cannot watch a rally IN A FOREST??
    What is the problem with these people?!!


    So if a rally that attracts 1/100 of spectators of Acropolis rally in the middle of the summer and uses some of Acropolis SS is held without spectators, that means that Acropolis Rally that will be held in the beginning of autumn will also be held without spectators???
    well you can always go for a pic nic in the stages... no need to tell anyone that you are there for a rally.

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    We still have to book our flights. Are you expecting any troubles for spectators or should it not be any issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOT View Post
    well you can always go for a pic nic in the stages... no need to tell anyone that you are there for a rally.
    This is what I am going to do and I hope it will work. I will be frustrated to wake up at 5 in the morning, drive 100kms and then to be stopped by a local policeman…

    Quote Originally Posted by MartijnS View Post
    We still have to book our flights. Are you expecting any troubles for spectators or should it not be any issue?
    I want to believe that Acropolis Rally organisers are smart enough not to impose any restrictions. They have heavily invested to this year’s rally and they need spectators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bomber21 View Post
    I want to believe that Acropolis Rally organisers are smart enough not to impose any restrictions. They have heavily invested to this year’s rally and they need spectators.
    they won't... but most importantly they can't.

    its rally.... its not some woke F1 event for sick dogs where you have to kneel to enter the race track...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Pavliani was repaired smooth because of this local rally?
    No, it was made smooth because of Acropolis. The local organizers do not have the money to do such resurfacing. Acropolis for the first time is organized by an organizing body appointed by the government. And it will remain so, in an effort to have the funds to keep the rally. They resurfaced it completely before the local rally and they will do some small repair before Acropolis.

    And this a video of how Tarzan looks after the resurfacing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJmegeHmkaA
    It will not be like this after the first pass, but it will still be very far from what it was in the past. This used to be the toughest stage in Europe, together with Agia Sotira. Only some Safari sections could match these two stages.

    By the way, there is some information that Tarzan will not be done because there is no view of the cars from the helicopter for a long part of the stage, due to the trees. The resurfacing has stopped and there are talks of changing the Sunday route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartijnS View Post
    We still have to book our flights. Are you expecting any troubles for spectators or should it not be any issue?
    If Greece continues to be orange and red in ECDC map, it is unlikely that spectators will be allowed. BUT, the Greek protocol for motorsport says that no spectators are allowed in the stage 3 hours before the first car. And this is what the police does in hillclimbs, where there are normally many spectators. They close all accesses to hillclimbs 3 hours before the start. So I just go 3,5 hours before the first car and there is no problem. As a matter of fact, it is much better because there are very few spectators and you can sit wherever you want.
    In Acropolis, the best thing to do is to bring a tent and put it on Thursday night for the two Agioi Theodoroi, on Friday night for the two Pavliani or two Eleftherohori and on Saturday night for the two Tarzan (if it will not be changed). If you stay in a hotel and try to come to the stages in the morning, I am afraid you will end up on some beach.
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