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Thread: Rally1 hybrid cars (2022-)
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1st November 2021, 15:34 #351
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Didier Clement explains how he perceives this new era (for Rally2 cars) via WRCWings:
“We, Citroën, we were in favour of hybridisation, because in fact, we participated at the beginning of the WRC regulation. In Rally2 we are also in favour of hybridisation… but it has little to do with hybridisation in the WRC. For the WRC, it’s high voltage with very heavy batteries, and it’s very expensive (only the battery and the electrical harness have the same cost as half a Rally2 car!). We mustn’t lose sight of the fact that a Rally2 is a customer car. We’ve already put forward some ideas to other manufacturers and to the FIA to have a light hybridisation that is cheap, with standard parts, a 48V low voltage solution with a small battery and with very little additional weight. Of course, you won’t be able to drive many kilometers on a hybrid, you will not have a big overboost, but it’s already a first step to use this hybrid energy in competition with a very low cost and no extra cost to operate.”
“Our idea is to have this regulation in 2023 or 2024, nothing is decided yet, we have to wait, but the technology that we will use in competition is known technology of series car to stay in a series price with just an additional competition package. We are pushing for the 48V low voltage solution that is used every day, it is not dangerous. When there are accidents, it is not more dangerous than with a normal car, that is why we think it is a good step and we will see if it is adopted in the future”.
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1st November 2021, 16:37 #352
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I guess that you still need a homologation done by the manufacturer.
On the other hand I think that WRC will need to allow (and should) privately built cars in the future in a similar way to Dakar. IMHO in the long-term horizont it won't be able to survive without them.Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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1st November 2021, 17:54 #353
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2nd November 2021, 15:15 #354
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https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...-rally1-crews/
''...each car shares the same spaceframe chassis.''
It has never been specified as far as I know but I thought only the safetycell was a spec part integrated into the spaceframe chassis of each manufacturer. Was this just incompentence on the writers part or is the safetycell more than the published FIA statements indicated so far?
Also has a minimum weight for the Rally1 cars been published yet?
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2nd November 2021, 15:25 #355
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To me it seems like the writer made an error, it should be only the safety cell and hybrid unit which are common to all cars.
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3rd November 2021, 10:14 #356
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Some time ago info was released that cars would go on electric power in towns between stages etc, and also that extra electric power will/could be used on exits from slow corners on the stages - but since then no more information on the extra power on SS. Or did I missed it?
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3rd November 2021, 10:16 #357
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There's been bits and pieces here and there. This is one of the latest articles.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/an-en...ide-to-rally1/
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3rd November 2021, 10:55 #358
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Also here - https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc...inable-future/
"The unique Rally1 hybrid system has three principal modes:"
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3rd November 2021, 19:07 #359
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They are not completely stupid. They would not carry the hybrid system and invest huge money in it just to use it only on the road sections. That would be just a ridiculous nonsense
Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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4th November 2021, 10:34 #360
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just wonder what Ott was saying about hybrid technology... any help from Estonia?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CsT0bMGW24
Meeke had a big gap to Rossel after stage 3 (20 sec) at stage 4 had a puncture and now the gap to Rossel is just 2 sec Gryazin strangely slow,anybody now why?...
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