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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    I don't get why he means with:
    "The 2022 regs take away many of the things that help the driver, with things like the centre differential, the aerodynamics and the fancy front and rear differentials."

    What is so fancy with current front and rear difs? They are not active like they used to be in 2006 or so.

    Anyway what I do hope and what likely was the goal is that the reduction of "setting possibilities" reduces the benefit of using tons of money on testing (simply because there is less settings to test)
    As this likely is the area that caused large part of the gap between MSport and Hyundai/Toyota lately.
    The current front and rear differentials , have the ability to change positive preload and negative preload , normal by nitrogen gas inserted it a piston chamber , during service you can open a bung insert a needle connected to a gas bottle and adjust the pressure to change the setting

    When it used to be mechanically adjusted by a thread system with temperature change it change preload , and in some cases if a low setting was chosen it would wind off in time , the gas system is more consistent , also adding adjustment of negative preload added another dimension of adjustment esp on the front diff to aid turn in

    This was first used in the polo in 2014 and Citroen ds3 , msport first used in 2015 car

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    Thanks for the info. What will the change be then? No possibility to change preload without changing whole diff?

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    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/m...liest/6568200/

    In short, don't expect any miracles before 2024.
    Only you know your true potential.
    This year we rally #ForCraig

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/m...liest/6568200/

    In short, don't expect any miracles before 2024.
    Pretty critical that M-Sport be given a helping hand to bring them up to (or at least closer to) the support level of the Manufacturer teams. Here's hoping the Promoter/Red Bull step up to the plate...

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    Wishful thinking from Matton IMO.

    Even if another Manufacturer was interested enough to want to join the WRC (in 2024), I cant see them doing so as it'll be so hard to then be competitive against the established teams.

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    The Manufacturers are out there, they're interested in a motorsport programme; however, the WRC isn't the series they wish to enter. And, as I keep asking, why?? The answer isn't what we want to hear.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Wishful thinking from Matton IMO.

    Even if another Manufacturer was interested enough to want to join the WRC (in 2024), I cant see them doing so as it'll be so hard to then be competitive against the established teams.
    Could’ve easily said that about Toyota coming fresh into WRC in 2017 no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKSjbg View Post
    Could’ve easily said that about Toyota coming fresh into WRC in 2017 no?
    No. Toyota entered at the same time as a major rule change occurred, leveling the playing field a bit.

    At the moment I don't see any major rule change planned for 2024, earliest 2025 afaik.

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    3 manfacturers is fine. It is a great number. I see people wanting more brands and more cars but 3 brands and 8 or 9 cars is already a great number. I mean, its never good to have too many brands cuz they eventually leave because they cant win. Only one brand can win per year. And when one leaves, others may follow them for that same reason. The car count is low right now but its also fine. We probably dont have the 8 best rally drivers in the championship's top class right now but we can also follow them in wrc2, erc and national championships.
    About the hybrid. I think its just great cuz we can have petrol cars in the stages and "electric" on the streets in between stages, following the european rules. Its great. I dont think we are ready for all electric cars on stages yet.. And I dont think R5s are the best we should have. So we have the best from both worlds!
    WRC is doing fine. Its difficult to promote, but it has always been difficult to promote. This is where it could improve a little, maybe? It'd be cool to add a "green propaganda" thing too. (sorry!)
    With the bio fuels and with the electric engine for the streets.
    I remember being on Indycar foruns back in 2012-2014 where the fan base kept complaining about wantinig more and more manufacturers (they just had 3 in 2012, which was awesome) making it always looks that "Oh, so the championship is in a bad situation right now cuz theres no more manfacturers?" - but they had been the greatest seasons ever.
    WRC 2022 will be great. Dont worry!
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