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    Come to think of it there shouldn't be any cost savings attached to it as it is ideed limited by other factors. Maybe they feared that the space frame regulations would have allowed for even more travel ? Altough the current cars behave awesome dynamically I think they looked a bit funny (like buggys) on certain pictures when the full travel could be seen.

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    You see from some videos of testing that especially the backend jumps up, wheels in the air. That would not have happened to the same degree in a 17 car.

    This will maybe result in lower cornerspeed on gravel, or it will be increased safety risk, or more back injuries.
    Lets see in sweden, how fast the Rally1s are. Maybe also in MC, depending on the weather!

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    Quote Originally Posted by becher View Post
    Yes its regulated now. Someone might know how much is allowed for Rally1 cars?
    270mm damper travel

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    [QUOTE=Sulland;1286769]You see from some videos of testing that especially the backend jumps up, wheels in the air. That would not have happened to the same degree in a 17 car.

    I think this has more to do with the additional weight in the rear and still searching for optimal suspension setup than the actual travel limitation

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    270mm damper travel
    That's more or less the same as pre-2017 WRC cars, isn't it?
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Thanks. Current cars are somwhere around 300mm right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    That's more or less the same as pre-2017 WRC cars, isn't it?
    Yes, I think the Fiesta had somewhere around 280 front and 300 rear (an even more for rough events ~280/320)

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    Quote Originally Posted by becher View Post
    Come to think of it there shouldn't be any cost savings attached to it....
    Is the new suspension a common part with Rally2? Every little helps with inventory and supply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by becher View Post
    Come to think of it there shouldn't be any cost savings attached to it as it is ideed limited by other factors. Maybe they feared that the space frame regulations would have allowed for even more travel ? Altough the current cars behave awesome dynamically I think they looked a bit funny (like buggys) on certain pictures when the full travel could be seen.
    All I know is that in 2017 the Rally Finland organizers were against increased suspension travel for the new cars because it increases cornering speed. In their opinion, the cars can be more powerful but they shouldn't be fast in corners. And essentially this is how the Rally1 cars are now.

    We don't know if the reduced travel is the only thing limited in suspension, maybe there's also other limitations which reduce expenses.

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