Rally1 hybrid cars (2022-)

[AnttiL]

I read a rumor that the boost could only be used at stage starts and very slow corner exits. Possibbly they are scared it will be too much power to use elsewherr. Sad to see the competitive aspect of where to use the boost not utilized.

I don’t see them changing the restrictor. It would mean a lot of development work to get the engines working with a smaller restrictor. So far they’ve kept saying engines will remain the same.

[steve.mandzij]

I read a rumor that the boost could only be used at stage starts and very slow corner exits. Possibbly they are scared it will be too much power to use elsewherr. Sad to see the competitive aspect of where to use the boost not utilized.

I don’t see them changing the restrictor. It would mean a lot of development work to get the engines working with a smaller restrictor. So far they’ve kept saying engines will remain the same.

However all that power and torque is of no use if they can't get the power down to the ground. If they use the electric power for slow corners and stage starts I'd love to see how the tyres hold up with the instant torque from the electric motors.

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[SubaruNorway]

They were presented as mild-hybrids, not plugin. IMHO plugin hybrid with such small battery makes little sense.

How can it have enough battery to run electric only through cities when it's only a mild hybrid?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

They were presented as mild-hybrids, not plugin. IMHO plugin hybrid with such small battery makes little sense.

In a statement (re Rally 2 Cars) the FIA said its objective is "to demonstrate how existing road-car technology can be transferred into the motorsport arena, rather than the 'plug-in' hybrid performance-orientated system that is being developed for Rally1".

[Fast Eddie WRC]

At least the new Fiesta doesnt sound like this...

https://youtu.be/UUvKESK_8cA

[Mirek]

How can it have enough battery to run electric only through cities when it's only a mild hybrid?

In a statement (re Rally 2 Cars) the FIA said its objective is "to demonstrate how existing road-car technology can be transferred into the motorsport arena, rather than the 'plug-in' hybrid performance-orientated system that is being developed for Rally1".

True. My bad.

[er88]

I do find it a shame the drivers won't be allowed to decide for themselves where they want to use the boost, during a stage. Would make it more interesting and give the drivers something else to think about it.

[lmmjvss]

meeeeh... Im still not buying into hybrid racing cars tbh. I mean, if they were pushing for electric cars for the WRC (not Rally2, ffs) I'd hate the lack of sound but I'd understand the reasons - But only if they had more freedom to explore and develop the technology. That would be interesting. But Lets be honest: Spec parts are NOT pushing development in anyway. And even so, Manufacturers are in Formula-e mostly because of "Marketing" and not necessarly to "develop road car tech". So.... I dont know. Top Motorsport championships are getting weird. Hope they dont mess up with Rally2.
I just saw wec saying it may need to reduce LMP2 performance even more(!) cuz they are still faster than the new Hypercars. This is pure nightmare.

[Sulland]

How is this package going to work?

- is it plugin hybrid or is it charged up only from driving?
- How can the driver impact how it is used? Is anything said on how the battery management system works with the ICE?
- Is it only meant to be used on transport or also for instance on powerstage?

As it looks now this is only R&D, with a mini 3,9 KWh battery. That is not many km on fully electric.

[mknight]

As it looks now this is only R&D, with a mini 3,9 KWh battery. That is not many km on fully electric.

As I mentioned some time ago this is similar size to batteries in Toyota non-plugin hybrids and more than enough to given electric boost during acceleration in most corners on a typical 10-15 min rally stage. Though for sure not enough for electric-only driving.

As mentioned by others the really bad idea seems to be restricting the usage to only specific parts of stage. But we dunno how restrictive that will be. Best case is that they only block it in a few "dangerous areas", worst case is the opposite - only allowed in very few corners.