Page 1 of 41 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 408
  1. #1
    Senior Member AnttiL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    7,934
    Like
    7,070
    Liked 8,419 Times in 3,705 Posts

    Rally1 hybrid cars (2022-)

    I suggest we add a a new topic for these cars.

    A summary of the rules

    - Same engine as in the 2017-2021 WRC cars
    - 5-speed gearbox, no paddle shift
    - No active centre diff
    - Aero and suspension is reduced from the 2017-2021 WRC cars
    - Hybrid unit can provide up to 100BHP boost on stages (rumoredly only at stage starts and slow corner exits)
    - Electric motor is used on service parks and city liaisons
    - Electric battery can be charged during liaisons through motor braking
    - Tubular frame and scaling of the car body is allowed

    M-Sport has already started testing

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/m-spo...22-rally1-car/

    Toyota told rallit.fi they start the hybrid unit test with the old Yaris and it won't be until summer that they get their Yaris GR Rally1 car tested.

    Hyundai still says no green light from the company but reportedly work is being done inside the team hq.

  2. Likes: Eli (22nd March 2021),Ha3aP (19th March 2021),Mirek (19th March 2021),TWRC (20th March 2021)
  3. #2
    Senior Member Mirek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Prague / Eastern Bohemia
    Posts
    22,050
    Like
    7,398
    Liked 10,448 Times in 4,166 Posts
    What size of restrictor will be used? I mean if they had the same as now and add the 100 Hp electric motor they would be at 500 Hp peak...

    The growth in torque will be even bigger which will require a lot stronger transmission.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

  4. #3
    Senior Member Portimao's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Location
    Poland
    Posts
    135
    Like
    395
    Liked 89 Times in 37 Posts
    It all seems like a downgrade...

  5. #4
    Senior Member er88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Scotland
    Posts
    2,695
    Like
    2,215
    Liked 1,713 Times in 828 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Portimao View Post
    It all seems like a downgrade...
    Will these cars potentially be even more spectacular to watch though? No active centre diff, reduced aero and suspension etc, could/should mean they'll be harder to drive (even if the pure performance drops a little)

  6. Likes: cali (19th March 2021),Portimao (19th March 2021)
  7. #5
    Senior Member Fast Eddie WRC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    England
    Posts
    15,892
    Like
    3,030
    Liked 7,456 Times in 3,942 Posts
    Last edited by Fast Eddie WRC; 19th March 2021 at 19:20.

  8. #6
    Senior Member SubaruNorway's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Biri, Norway
    Posts
    4,520
    Like
    86
    Liked 1,553 Times in 616 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    Will these cars potentially be even more spectacular to watch though? No active centre diff, reduced aero and suspension etc, could/should mean they'll be harder to drive (even if the pure performance drops a little)
    Doubt it, you can't get it much more spectacular than what it already is in my opinion. Not sure how much less suspension travel there will be but going back to something like Gr.A days now would be horrible, jumps would be so boring
    "Die with memories, not with dreams" Scott McIsaac
    http://www.motorsportfilmer.net

  9. Likes: EstWRC (19th March 2021)
  10. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    J y v s k y l
    Posts
    3,656
    Like
    16,750
    Liked 1,992 Times in 991 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post



    Toyota told rallit.fi they start the hybrid unit test with the old Yaris and it won't be until summer that they get their Yaris GR Rally1 car tested.
    That would be weird, because they have that Yaris GR "WRC21" test mule, why should they convert old one to hybrid ?
    "quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"

  11. #8
    Senior Member cali's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Estonia
    Posts
    2,067
    Like
    6,130
    Liked 1,062 Times in 449 Posts
    No active centre diff is a really good. I remember 2011 - 2017 and the sideways action was very nice. Todays cars are bit sterile in this matter.

    Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk

  12. #9
    Senior Member Mirek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Prague / Eastern Bohemia
    Posts
    22,050
    Like
    7,398
    Liked 10,448 Times in 4,166 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    No active centre diff is a really good. I remember 2011 - 2017 and the sideways action was very nice. Todays cars are bit sterile in this matter.
    There are more reasons for that, one of them is also the current extensive aero package. When you drive sideways the aero package produces less downforce.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

  13. #10
    Senior Member Sulland's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    5,738
    Like
    1,423
    Liked 1,054 Times in 540 Posts
    But that sword also has two sides.
    If cornering speeds, due to aero, go up and up, then suddenly we will have ugly accidents again, from drivers not mastering this, or just doing a mistake.

    There is a safety side to this as well.

  14. Likes: pantealex (22nd March 2021),WRC1 (22nd March 2021)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •