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    Quote Originally Posted by bomber21 View Post
    Wow, I could not even think what you are describing guys. I have been to some rallies abroad and to Acropolis and I was free to carry with me whatever I wanted and stay where I wanted (always respecting safety and marshalls).
    I was considering to visit Rally Estonia at some point but after this info, no.
    Hopefully next year it will be more spectator friendly

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    Totally agree with EstWRC and cali. I went last year and even already then it was just because WRC came to Estonia and nothing else. If they wouldn't have had big All Live screens in spectating areas, it would have been complete disaster in terms on experience. This was actually a nice idea. If you arrived early, then you could see what is happening on the previous stage and also it gave a good overview what is happening live. Although we Estonians brag about that we have wifi in the forest then actually, there are many many places, where the coverage is bad, especially when you have many fans at one place. Otherwise, just seeing cars going fast on the straight isn't my type of rally experience.

    I think this year, when they knew that the number of spectators is going to be 20 000, then they should have let everyone choose where they want to go. I can imagine that it was very hard to predict in April/May, what is going to happen with the virus but there should have been some solution. They are smart guys. And 20k people, spread around many km isn't worse than club, festival or theater events that are happening without any restrictions now. And my suggestion would have been that, create some spectator areas with All live, catering etc and make it +5€ or something. So you can go to Pasamägi or Alakülja jump where people would want to go anyway. Or some tickets would have been more expensive and they would have included these famous places.

    And I also think that rally should be attractive for people that are fans or more than fans. What I mean is that these are the people who will buy tickets, invite their friends with them, talk and advertise this event during lunches and coffee breaks etc. At least with me it has been like this that in previous years, I brought many friends with me who know what is rallying, who is Ott Täank but they have no idea where to go or what would be the cool places to watch. But this year, when those "magnets" that bring friends along, are not going, then this might be one of the reasons that there is so such a low interest.

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    well yeah its not all negative, there are good things too

    everything is very like modern, lets say compared to Finland or Spain where i have been, the big screens are indeed very good to follow the stages that you arent spectating. The parking and getting to the stage is very good, at least at the places where i was last year. The system that you just scan the QR code from the magazine and it automatically opens Waze app in your phone and directs you to the stage is very good. You get discounts from Circle K station with the rally pass, food -20%, carwash -25%, all fuels -7s/l


    but if the spectating system sucks then it all doesnt matter
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    Just over 30 hours until closing Pickems. Don´t forget.

    NOTE: I hade to move closing time to 1800 hrs CET .
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    I think organizers have done amazing job to make this rally happen and make it enjoyable for drivers, local governments units and land owners - I think one of the reason to limit spectators access to fields and forests is to avoid fights and problems with land-owners. Often there have been problems with ruined fields. Additionally organizers try to spread spectators to large area to avoid traffic jams.

    But this is also the reason, why a lot of rally fans will skip this event as spectator on the event and follow it other ways, most likely including me.

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    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
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    Interesting viewing 15:01-30:31
    Saturday stage starting with sand quarry and going very fast on.
    https://youtu.be/FI5qXY7Z_ao?t=901

    very informative show if you understand Estonian
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    Think it'll be a difficult weekend for Seb. Cleaning looks like it'll have a big effect, plus he isn't at his best on ultra fast rallies and it's harder to make back any time lost.

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    Tänaks told media that Power stage is pure garbage. With litte more tactful words.

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