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    Quote Originally Posted by BleAivano View Post
    Tell that to Mattias and JC Raceteknik.I'm sure that they know what kind of car they are developing.
    It's not your fault.

    From the WRC official article, they only just about mention it, in a quote...

    "Rally Technic director Chris Coertsee spoke about his enthusiasm for the project. “The Rally2 kit provides a unique price-performance balance for competitors, but in this case, it is also combined with a legendary brand and a glorious body kit.”"

    https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc...-wrc-comeback/

    And as Andre said, the number don't add up. I only immediately spotted the deception of the WRC article because I'd already just read the slightly less deceptive article on DirtFish.

    For the general followers of WRC on Facebook, most having no knowledge of the 'Rally2Kit'/R4 regs, they had virtually no chance at all of spotting this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the sniper View Post
    It's not your fault.

    From the WRC official article, they only just about mention it, in a quote...

    "Rally Technic director Chris Coertsee spoke about his enthusiasm for the project. “The Rally2 kit provides a unique price-performance balance for competitors, but in this case, it is also combined with a legendary brand and a glorious body kit.”"

    https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc...-wrc-comeback/

    And as Andre said, the number don't add up. I only immediately spotted the deception of the WRC article because I'd already just read the slightly less deceptive article on DirtFish.

    For the general followers of WRC on Facebook, most having no knowledge of the 'Rally2Kit'/R4 regs, they had virtually no chance at all of spotting this...
    I get your point but the team themselves says ((on their own website) that it's a Rally2 car (but says further down Rally2kit):

    The newly formed EKS JC team, that consists of two FIA World Rallycross Championship winning squads – EKS and JC, has presented a new project: Audi A1 quattro Rally2 car.
    https://www.eksrx.com/news/eks-jc-re...tro-rally-car/

    In the end it doesn't matter, it's an Audi Quattro rally car
    ...Funny how ev'rything was roses when we held on to the guns...

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    With PSA 1.6T engine without any Quattro technology.

    https://r4rallycars.com/the-r4-concept/

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    Its a R4/Rally2 Kit Car
    https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/rally2kit

    Cool anyway. Lets see how quick they can get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post

    Car is one R4 with Kit by Oreca. Less performance than the others mentionated. Can participate in WRC2 and WRC3 in 2022 (2021 not) but will not be top class car..
    They cannot participate in WRC this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Its a R4/Rally2 Kit Car
    https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/rally2kit

    Cool anyway. Lets see how quick they can get it!
    Like I said in the Rally3 thread, the performance should be close to a Group N Mitsu.

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    I know it is just a money making exercise for the parties involved, but it is obscene that the above class is legislated while other specialist companies are not allowed to prepare Rally2 or Rally1 cars without manufacturer homoiogation.
    Last edited by NickRally; 5th March 2021 at 02:55.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    They cannot participate in WRC this year?
    in WRC yes, WRC2 or 3 no.

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    12.2 REQUIREMENTS FOR CARS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FIA WRC2
    CHAMPIONSHIP AND/OR WRC3 CHAMPIONSHIP
    All cars must comply with the 2021 FIA Appendix J regulations
    for:
    – Group Rally2 cars (complying with Art. 261)
    - For drivers entered with a Rally2 car complying with
    2021Appendix J, Art. 261, it will be possible to use the
    old part after applying a joker (except reliability and
    safety jokers).

    https://www.fia.com/sites/default/fi..._published.pdf

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    It is good to see such a project. I hope it succeeds. This overexpensive situation of "exclusively from factory" R cars must change. At least in two categories (e.g. Rally5 and Rally3 or Rally2) there must be a way to allow private developers to make rally cars, or even just parts for rally cars as in the past, at a lower cost. The costs are ridiculous these days, especially for young drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scn View Post
    It is good to see such a project. I hope it succeeds. This overexpensive situation of "exclusively from factory" R cars must change. At least in two categories (e.g. Rally5 and Rally3 or Rally2) there must be a way to allow private developers to make rally cars, or even just parts for rally cars as in the past, at a lower cost. The costs are ridiculous these days, especially for young drivers.
    Malcolm doesnt like that.

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