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    https://www.ewrc-results.com/cars/14...&sct=&w=#stats

    Yes. it's a Rally2 Kit (previously known as R4 Kit).

    The fact that there's already several Audi A1's built with the Oreca kit makes the Ekström news more ridiculous...

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    Very ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    Rally2-Kit

    And people start writing Rally2 Kit Car... oh god
    Modern rally world is a land of confusion
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlBIa8z_Mts
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    Rally2-Kit

    And people start writing Rally2 Kit Car... oh god
    That's what I'm telling, it's friggin confusing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    Rally2-Kit

    And people start writing Rally2 Kit Car... oh god
    The people who know what Kit Cars were, will not cofuse it and for the rest it doesn't really matter. Kit Cars are just a distant history for most of the people.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    The R4 cars are good, the problem is the price, and as somebody said before, there is not a car brand pushing to grow, just Oreca trying to sell kits. The other problem is that the R4 cars are into the Rally2 class and have to compete against the R5 cars.

    The solution could be to create a CUP into the Rally2 class only for R4 cars, so this way the drivers are competing for something and could get a prix. In other words, FIA should try to do something like Spain and Italy are doing with the N5 cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damian Baldi View Post
    The R4 cars are good, the problem is the price, and as somebody said before, there is not a car brand pushing to grow, just Oreca trying to sell kits. The other problem is that the R4 cars are into the Rally2 class and have to compete against the R5 cars.

    The solution could be to create a CUP into the Rally2 class only for R4 cars, so this way the drivers are competing for something and could get a prix. In other words, FIA should try to do something like Spain and Italy are doing with the N5 cars.
    It's a bit of chicken and egg situation. Why create a cup when there's no drivers? Or why buy/build a car when there's no cup/championship to participate in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    It's a bit of chicken and egg situation. Why create a cup when there's no drivers? Or why buy/build a car when there's no cup/championship to participate in?
    Such cars can compete in ERC2. This category was created for group N cars, but it also includes Rally2 kits now:
    https://www.fiaerc.com/suzuki-motor-...swift-r4lly-s/
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    I have just read that there is another Audi A1 rally car. Enrico Windisch is going to drive it in Blaufränkischland Rallye (Austria) tomorrow. It looks a little different than Ekstrom's car and it is called Audi A1 R4, but I think it is also Rally2 Kit. Look at no. 20 on the entry list:
    http://www.blaufraenkischlandrallye....nennliste.html

    https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/...-hubert-au.jpg
    This is not new car, it was competing last year also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    Such cars can compete in ERC2. This category was created for group N cars, but it also includes Rally2 kits now:
    https://www.fiaerc.com/suzuki-motor-...swift-r4lly-s/
    It looks like there will be more Rally2-kit cars in ERC2 this year. And some others were planning to build it, but when FIA is slightly killing this category, I am not sure if they will build it.

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