WRC Croatia Rally 2021

[EstWRC]

pointless to ask him about those things, he wont answer anyway

[mknight]

I think that there isn't so much to do anymore with this gen Hyundai (for other than Neuville to suit it).. especially on tarmac. I'm sure that both Loeb and Tänak have tried a lot of things to make it work as they want, but no real success..

Nah since they started to do something about it instead og telling drivers to adapt (so from mid2019-ish), they have improved a lot on tarmac. But Toyota isn't standing still and waiting for them. (Unlike MSport)

[EstWRC]

so still the same as in Monte, where he said that he hasn't been on pace for over a year.. With all the resources and knowhow it's sad though. 1.5 years gone by and no really big improvements..

short memory?

he was very much on the pace just 2 months ago on Arctic Rally, on Monte wont the first 2 stages and was 3rd after Friday. Has won a stage or stages on every rally so far this season, scroll down to the bottom https://www.ewrc-results.com/season/

it was just a one bad rally and now suddenly everything is lost. i would wait couple of more rallies to make conclusions.

[denkimi]

Makes you wonder how good neuville must be when you see his pace in a car that all others think is crap. 😛

[Sulland]

Incredible rally. Thanks Croatia!

Very often we see the best and most exiting rallies coming from the newcomers, where no one has notes from the last years.

So maybe we need more new venues?

[meh]

More fuel to the fire - seems (and I'm surprised) that no one picked it up. Julian said (don't remember exactly when) on All-Live that he saw Markko Märtin (previous WRC driver, doing "manager" job for Tänak) visiting "other teams".

[mknight]

Question is how burned the bridges are at Toyota and how much faith they have in MSport next year.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ingrassia

[cali]

short memory?

he was very much on the pace just 2 months ago on Arctic Rally, on Monte wont the first 2 stages and was 3rd after Friday. Has won a stage or stages on every rally so far this season, scroll down to the bottom https://www.ewrc-results.com/season/

it was just a one bad rally and now suddenly everything is lost. i would wait couple of more rallies to make conclusions.

Well the solution for Arctic was really simple or even quite mind boggling. They had to get rid of the rear bumper to lose weight on the rear to not collect snow and ice.

For tarmac you just can't do that. I'm no expert but what I see is it's related to the rear of the car as it likes to understeer a lot and if a driver can overcome understeer it oversteers quite badly.

Now the trend for Tänak has been to risk it with tyres. He starts every rally with 1 spare and gambles with tyre selection. It helped in Arctic due to the road position but in Croatia the road position was against back starters.

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[denkimi]

Question is how burned the bridges are at Toyota and how much faith they have in MSport next year.

If ogier actually retires it will be hard for toyota to find someone better than him. So i don't see a reason why they should not hire him.

But from the other side, why would he go to toyota if he left them in the first place, while knowing they had the best car. He must have been pretty pissed.