WRC Croatia Rally 2021

**dimviii** · 29th April 2021, 20:19

**pantealex** · 30th April 2021, 17:44

Originally Posted by Pršljen

Good question at the end of the article; is there a place for Croatia on the calendar? Rotating system really seems like a possibility with Australia, NZ, Mexico, Argentina, Chile, GB and Germany missing this season. Much better option than what we had in recent years with almost no new venues and with the same and often boring ones.

Often boring ?

Can you please name some boring ones ?

I have never witnessed any boring ones but I can only remember from B-group time...

**Pršljen** · 30th April 2021, 18:19

Originally Posted by pantealex

Often boring ?

Can you please name some boring ones ?

I have never witnessed any boring ones but I can only remember from B-group time...

Not boring per se but boring in excitement and predictability. Most of the tarmac events were more or less predictable. These are also the words from Evans and Clark on one of the podcasts after rally Croatia.

We haven't seen tarmac rally as unpredictable and exciting as rally Croatia in a long time.

**cali** · 30th April 2021, 19:25

Originally Posted by Pršljen

Not boring per se but boring in excitement and predictability. Most of the tarmac events were more or less predictable. These are also the words from Evans and Clark on one of the podcasts after rally Croatia.

We haven't seen tarmac rally as unpredictable and exciting as rally Croatia in a long time.

Don't take Colin Clark too seriously. David Evans yes he knows more what he's talking about.

Other than that Dirtfish content (podcasts/videos) holds more of an entertainment value.

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**Pršljen** · 30th April 2021, 19:30

Originally Posted by cali

Don't take Colin Clark too seriously. David Evans yes he knows more what he's talking about.

Other than that Dirtfish content (podcasts/videos) holds more of an entertainment value.

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I can make my own oppinion on the matter, thanks. I know who they are and we have the same oppinion on those tarmac rallies, that's why I mentioned them, their oppinion is more relevant than mine, obviously.

**scn** · 1st May 2021, 05:40

Originally Posted by dimviii

at your diagram shows that wilwood A while has 0,55 at 35 degrees,climbs to 0,67 when properly hot.Thats a huge difference
i know that technology mooves,i have tried almost everything in my evo from 2005,best so far without wearing discs is Carbotech xp 10.Impossible to fade them,even at 20-30 km downhill,or with repeat hard braking from 250-300km/h to full stop.Discs full red from glowing,pedal and feeling as the first brake.

0,55 is more than enough for the first corner. Most racing pads have lower maximum value. On the second corner it is already higher.
Have you tried Carbone Lorraine? In my 106 I had a problem with the handbrake. I put RC5 at the rear and I have very strong handbrake from 0 degrees. And at the front RC6 does not have any change in power from 0 degrees Celsius to whatever. It is impossible to fade them or detect any change in power. There are only two problems: Price and that it wears discs like crazy. I dare say that you change discs more often than pads.

**scn** · 1st May 2021, 05:57

Countries that have good rallies and deserve a place in WRC are more than 13. Rotating system seems to be the only fair solution. For example on tarmac there are Corsica, Spain, Germany, Croatia, Japan that offer very good stages. About Ypres and Alsace I would not say they are on the same level, but they are adequate. It is not possible to have 5 tarmac rallies, some have to rotate. The same applies for tough gravel rallies. You cannot have Safari, Acropolis, Turkey and Cyprus in one year.

Regarding traffic jams in Croatia, I dare predict that Acropolis will have a huge problem.

**Mirek** · 1st May 2021, 09:53

Originally Posted by scn

0,55 is more than enough for the first corner. Most racing pads have lower maximum value. On the second corner it is already higher.
Have you tried Carbone Lorraine? In my 106 I had a problem with the handbrake. I put RC5 at the rear and I have very strong handbrake from 0 degrees. And at the front RC6 does not have any change in power from 0 degrees Celsius to whatever. It is impossible to fade them or detect any change in power. There are only two problems: Price and that it wears discs like crazy. I dare say that you change discs more often than pads.

The Evo is much heavier than the 106.

**Mirek** · 1st May 2021, 10:00

Originally Posted by scn

Countries that have good rallies and deserve a place in WRC are more than 13. Rotating system seems to be the only fair solution. For example on tarmac there are Corsica, Spain, Germany, Croatia, Japan that offer very good stages. About Ypres and Alsace I would not say they are on the same level, but they are adequate. It is not possible to have 5 tarmac rallies, some have to rotate. The same applies for tough gravel rallies. You cannot have Safari, Acropolis, Turkey and Cyprus in one year.

IMHO Ypres is much better rally than Alsace and I like it more than Germany too. For spectating it is way better than Corsica too (that's only great for driving IMHO). No idea about Japan. Ypres has a huge advantage in having very easy access to the stages in their entire length therefore the people can spread and you have a chance to choose from plenty of spectacular places while still being able to move from stage to stage. The service park on the old city square is awesome too.

**AnttiL** · 1st May 2021, 10:32

Right now it's down to:
- Who can pay for an event
- Who can arrange an event (in terms of COVID)

I understood that Rally Deutschland for example won't be a WRC event in the future anymore because ADAC don't want to pay for it or the costs became suddenly higher or something.

I'm not sure what happened with Tour de Corse, it seems the event hasn't been arranged in any form since 2019.