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    It's also very difficult to see something with the rearview mirrors they have...
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    as it is now

    Evans ............ 56 pts
    Neuville .......... 50 pts
    Ogier .............. 49 pts
    Tanak ............. 39 pts
    Rovanpera ...... 39 pts


    if Ogier finish 3rd

    Evans ........... 56 pts
    Neuville ........ 53 pts
    Ogier ............ 46 pts
    Tanak ............ 39 pts
    Rovanpera .... 39 pts
    The championship will be very very very tight this year until the end.

    See how much the zero from Croatia costs for Kalle and the same goes for Ott with zero from Monte.


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    The way how I see it is that although the BWM guy was speeding, then Ogier can't change lanes and then turn directly to the bus stop pocket to do whatever. You can hear from the sound that Ogier accelerates, changes lanes and then stops. Even if BMW was doing normal speed, then this accident would happened. Had Ogier continued with normal speed, then BMW guy would have had time to decelerate but if you completely stop, then there is no chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    The only thing Ogier did wrong was not indicating with his indicators.
    That's the basic thing of all and which makes me angry on the roads all the time. The very first thing of being safe in traffic is to be predictable. And that starts with clearly giving others in advance an idea what you are going to do.

    Crossing over two lanes to the right is by default a potentially dangerous situation and you always have to be very careful when you do that. Especially if you don't see well behind...
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    It's also very difficult to see something with the rear-view mirrors they have...
    Exactly and as a road-car you should consider that when trying to overtake or whatever that BMW was trying to do. Not taking away from the fact that Ogier didn't use his indicators, but as a road user you should always be alert, especially with rally cars running around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    That's the basic thing of all and which makes me angry on the roads all the time. The very first thing of being safe in traffic is to be predictable. And that starts with clearly giving others in advance an idea what you are going to do.

    Crossing over two lanes to the right is by default a potentially dangerous situation and you always have to be very careful when you do that. Especially if you don't see well behind...
    True, here they love overtaking from the right (although it's illegal) but that's what happens when the police is more worried about filling their pockets with speeding tickets (from speed cameras) than the actual safety of road users, I guess that's why people here hate indicating all the time, so you really have to guess what's a driver going to do next. But we're really off-topic here, in any case, that's Ogier's win, gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wwbroe View Post
    Very bad time for Ingram on this one, what happened to him?
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    Ingram: "stopped in stage, continu"
    He's been driving with damaged steering since yesterday.

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    Anyhow, Ogier said at stop finish of this stage that there was not any problem whatever with his car and the fight wasn't over yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    He's been driving with damaged steering since yesterday.
    Does he not have a service crew?!

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    On Ogier, that BMW seemed to come fast and from nowhere and in the UK we woukd call that illegal 'undertaking'.

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