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    Quote Originally Posted by dupanton View Post
    Ogier got out and to the finish, but lost almost 20min. He should have retired, would have only lost 10min...
    He can still retire however if he let the car where it was some late runner could hit it and destroy and he wouldn't be able to restart. Plus I guess they weren't very comfortable outthere in the cold
    Last edited by Mirek; 27th February 2021 at 16:37.
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    Did i see it wrong or did Seb didn't have helmet at end of stage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwbroe View Post
    Did i see it wrong or did Seb didn't have helmet at end of stage?
    doesnt matter, another 400€ fine i guess


    i would say its not a huge loss for him, he would have got 8 points before the off
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    Is there any advantage to completing the stage over the super rally option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemanband View Post
    There is no scenario where an engine with a flatter curve will not be better. But I still believe that with more optimized gearing in the more technical sections the driver can make a big part of the deficit up with his driving, setup, accurate gear changes etc. But if it is a fast rally where the drivers will be in top gear nearing the limiter for long amounts of time then there is absolutely nothing the driver can do.

    For your S2000 point i think the best season to look at would be 2012 with Ogier in the Škoda Fabia. I had a quick look at EWRC-Results. His average speed was 1,9 lower in Greece and 1.73 in Finland than the leader. Not a massive difference. And the loss is not only from the lack of engine power for the S2000. As a counterpoint I would point to the ERC or national level in the S2000 or early R5 era where the N group cars could hang on with the much more nimble opponents on fast rallies like Estonia thanks to their superior top speed.
    I must apologise, i misread the stat from EWRC-Results. The 1.9 and 1.73 are not average speed but seconds per km.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    Is there any advantage to completing the stage over the super rally option?
    He's not stuck out in the cold

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwbroe View Post
    Did i see it wrong or did Seb didn't have helmet at end of stage?
    This was also reported at Finnish rally radio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    He's not stuck out in the cold
    Hahahaha =D
    True!

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    Quote Originally Posted by onemanband View Post
    I must apologise, i misread the stat from EWRC-Results. The 1.9 and 1.73 are not average speed but seconds per km.
    It was 1,00 and 1,93 one year before (with Hänninen). But ok, let's agree to disagree
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    Gryazin is taking fastest time on this stage, five seconds up on Lappi

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