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    This win was mostly due to Mikkelsen's puncture and Bulacia's off, and otherwise short WRC2 entry list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    This win was mostly due to Mikkelsen's puncture and Bulacia's off, and otherwise short WRC2 entry list.
    A win is a win!!... there are no if's, buts etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ictus View Post
    A win is a win!!... there are no if's, buts etc.
    See the context. The discussion was about the speed of Fiesta Mk.II. Even here in Monza the speed wasn't there.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny0405 View Post
    1st win for M-Sport in either WRC-2 Pro, WRC-2 or WRC-3 since Turkey 2019. But still quite far from RC2 class win.
    Shows how far is the Fiesta Rally2 currently. The only positive is probably tarmac with Fourmaux in Canarias last year and Cais in Barum this year
    Cais was also quick on Catalunya.

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    Very nice video of Yohan Rossel on the finish line of Rally Monza. He has just won WRC3 World Championship. Congratulations!
    https://www.facebook.com/YohanRossel...4912801899388/
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    Ingram lost 3rd overall in WRC3 due to the time penalty, Lindholm takes it instead.

    We could also speculate that Kajto could have won, had not Lindholm done the co-driver-swap-trickery in Spain (they took the highest points which Kajto would have otherwise gotten)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Ingram lost 3rd overall in WRC3 due to the time penalty, Lindholm takes it instead.

    We could also speculate that Kajto could have won, had not Lindholm done the co-driver-swap-trickery in Spain (they took the highest points which Kajto would have otherwise gotten)
    Not a fan of the «*what if*» in general because it could change a lot of things in the approach by the drivers, the risks taken (Rossel may have taken a lot more risks if win was needed in Monza), ...
    In the what if category, there are also:
    - What of Lopez engine did not broke in Spain?
    - What if Rossel took a smaller penalty in Greece?
    In the end, Rossel’s disqualification in Greece gives Kajto an advantage (having 7 rounds scoring possibilities instead of 6 for Rossel in the 5 out of 7 rule), Kajto was dominated in the «*real rally*» part of Monza and still has a chance thanks to the circuit: but he lost the fight in proper way in the last one where both had their chances (which was the only interest of this last stage).

    Even if, on another point, I agree the driver rule should be precised to avoid that type of situation in the future (could have sense in the past but not anymore nowadays).
    Last edited by Danny0405; 21st November 2021 at 17:40.

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    I'd say Monza was first really good rally for the new Hyundai, sure Crugnola is Monza expert and Mikkelsen was faster without the timeloss on puncture, but only by some 10s.

    Too bad there doesn't seem to be onboard for Rossel (because he is WRC3 ?) from the PS.

    Huttunen and Fiesta were quite disappointing.

    Gryazin also seemed to struggle a lot on the circuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Ingram lost 3rd overall in WRC3 due to the time penalty, Lindholm takes it instead.
    Yes, a very unfortunate rally for Chris Ingram. First he got a 1-minute penalty (I don't know why) and then he also got a 6-minute penalty for using too many tires:
    https://www.motorsportforums.com/sho...=1#post1287292

    But still, 4th place overall in WRC3 is not bad:
    https://www.wrc.com/en/results-stand...1/wrc3/?mobile
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    We could also speculate that Kajto could have won, had not Lindholm done the co-driver-swap-trickery in Spain (they took the highest points which Kajto would have otherwise gotten)
    I have just read Kajto's press release. He says only positive things about the season, but it must be a typical PR bullshit. I think he must be very disappointed with the final result:

    This year’s World Rally Championship is coming to an end. This has been our best season since we started to compete among the fastest rally crews in the world. Three rally victories, six podium finishes in seven outings brought us this second place in the championship! Although the main goal was very close, I can return to Poland with my head held high.

    source:
    https://kajto.pl/en/2021/11/21/kajet...e-polish-crew/
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