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    https://youtu.be/RzlmiMnJcZ8

    So fun to watch the rally2 guys repairing their cars. Look at the talent of this class, jeeez. Mads, Lappi, Kajetan, Ingram, Suninem, Camili, Solberg... Wish Lukyanuk were there too

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    This is how Kajto won WRC3:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV672yiJu0s
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Btw. talking about WRC3, Lindholm was second fastest R5/Rally2 in Portugal PowerStage, only 0.9s behind Lappi.

    But he was also something like 25th car on the road (didn't check exact number) after all WRC and WRC2 cars while Lappi started 5th and Østberg 3rd.

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    Lindholm must have been very desperate, because after a very bad rally Power Stage was his only chance for at least a couple of points in WRC3.
    Last edited by Jarek Z; 25th May 2021 at 10:28.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lmmjvss View Post
    https://youtu.be/RzlmiMnJcZ8

    So fun to watch the rally2 guys repairing their cars. Look at the talent of this class, jeeez. Mads, Lappi, Kajetan, Ingram, Suninem, Camili, Solberg... Wish Lukyanuk were there too
    Nice to see Kajto advising Ingram on their wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    He took a picture during a Skoda internal business presentation where it explicitly said that it's not allowed to take pictures and posted it on social media (Instagram I think?)

    On the picture you could see a not yet revealed Skoda model (Scala) and more importantly financial/growth goals for next few years. The second part is actually much more important as it has direct impact on the stock market. Someone could make or loose a lot of money based on that. In this particular case I think the growth was less than generally expected. (EDIT: There are no numbers on the scale, but the main point is that profit is much reduced due to WLTP, electrification and some plans in India)

    After that he was basically kicked immediately. Hard to argue about that.

    Hypothetically if someone he knew made a lot of money based on the info he could even have faced criminal charges. Personally I think he was just showing off (by showing the new Skoda model that was in front of the charts).

    EDIT: Here's the pic:
    https://auto-mania.cz/wp-content/upl...koda-rapid.jpg
    this is what you can get hireing right out of kindergarten. ;-)
    But a bit strange since his father is very much a businessman involved in motorsport.
    So do not give them a mobilephone before the turn 20, and social media accounts turning 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Stated he got permit, though.
    There is no such thing as a telephone permit exactly for the reason that it can not be proven. What would you show to the police if they decided to check you on the border?
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    where is mknight when you need him?

    Defending WRC2 Champion Mads Østberg believes Andreas Mikkelsen isn’t the biggest threat to his title defense with Citroën, despite the Toksport driver’s hopes of ‘dominating’ the series.

    “It was nice to hear him say it because I was quite sure that wasn’t going to happen,” Østberg told DirtFish.

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ostbe...st-wrc2-rival/

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    As you certainly understand the main reason why Østberg is saying that is to put pressure on Mikkelsen. All the talk about "dominating" and "showing speed" has a clear goal of making him push too much.
    Similarly your main reason for taking out just that one quote from the long article and post it here is to troll.


    However there is some historic background there that is not clear for everyone.

    Ever since the start of their careers Østberg has been especially negative to Mikkelsen for some reason (I don't know exactly why). It topped in 2008 Norwegian championship final round.
    Østberg was the defending champion and had the upper hand in the start of the season but very soon Mikkelsen was the faster driver and got more wins. Before the last round "everyone" and especially Mikkelsen's team thought that Mikkelsen just had to finish 3rd to get the title. So he was driving safely and not pushing and finished 3rd.
    "Everyone" was declaring him champion and Østberg supposedly congratulated him on the title on the phone after the last stage...
    Then by the time they got to service someone read the rules in detail and found out that actually Østberg is champion (think it was because he won the first round or something like that). Østberg then went out and declared he knew that the whole rally. (contrast that with him congratulating on the title after last stage). Few people doubt that Mikkelsen could have driven faster and got the title by getting 2nd place in the rally if he knew it was needed (but off course he could have crashed too).

    Year after Mikkelsen ran out of money and they didn't really meet in direct competition so it seemed this calmed down. This year Østberg is for some reason going back towards this anti-Mikkelsen mentality. Recently he also declared in an interview how he "beat" Mikkelsen last time they were driving WRCs in 2018.


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    But obviously for this kind of talk to work at all there has to be some truth in it. Which is:
    - Lappi has indeed more points (59) from his 2 starts than Mikkelsen from any 2 starts (53), Østberg has 44 from his 2, Suninen 41
    - In Portugal 3 drivers had same or better speed than Østberg (Lappi, Suninen and Gryazin), this was somewhat surprising tbh, I was expecting Østberg to fight with Lappi, while I certainly didn't expect him to be as good on tarmac in Croatia. Gryazin does not have high title chances though with one zero alreadly and 3+4th place. For some reason he also isn't entered for championship points in Sardinia.

    - As is also pointed out in the article when Mikkelsen announced his aim to dominate every rally he starts in the only people who said they will enter WRC2 were Fourmaux and Solberg. And this was after Monza when Mikkelsen indeed did just "dominate" against Østberg (one running WRC3 and one WRC2 though)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    where is mknight when you need him?

    Defending WRC2 Champion Mads Østberg believes Andreas Mikkelsen isn’t the biggest threat to his title defense with Citroën, despite the Toksport driver’s hopes of ‘dominating’ the series.

    “It was nice to hear him say it because I was quite sure that wasn’t going to happen,” Østberg told DirtFish.

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ostbe...st-wrc2-rival/
    Beep beep beep, Andreas is reversing.

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