[WRC] Monza Rally 2020

**NickRally** · 4th December 2020, 01:06

Originally Posted by dimviii

It has probably already been mentioned here - It kind of reminds me of the 70's and 80's RAC rally early spectator stages.

**NickRally** · 4th December 2020, 01:14

Originally Posted by AnttiL

In 1996 the drivers could pick 7 best from the 9 rounds. In 1994 8 best from 10. In 1993 and before the calendar had typically 12-13 rounds but only the best 7-8 was counted. Biasion won his titles in 1988 and 1989 with 7 and 6 starts respectively. In 1987 all of the three Lancia drivers were given equally 7 starts.

It was very untypical to do full seasons before 1995. The closest one I know is Alen in 1986, all rallies except Ivory Coast.

Not to mention 1983 when Lancia's number 1 driver plainly refused to win the title. Did this diminish Mikkola's title - not in my mind, and I was supporting Rohrl.

Ogier didn't do himself any favours by saying what he said, but we are all humans.

**mknight** · 4th December 2020, 05:35

Anyone has some decently working splits?

The "live timing" on WRC doesn't really update and the ones on live maps are a bit messy to watch since you can only see one split at a time.

EDIT: nvm they are here: https://sport.postimees.ee/wrc/splittimes

**er88** · 4th December 2020, 05:50

I think Ogier's comments appear harsher than they actually are. For him, I would find it totally understandable if he would find this seasons title "lesser" than his other 6. Particular when viewed against his 1st title, or the titles won with Msport which are standouts.

However when Neuville makes the comments like he has, it just sounds like sour grapes and a bit petty, considering he hasn't yet won a title himself (when he should've).

Imo a title is a title - whoever wins it deserves it. Whether 7 rallies or 16. Shorter rallies, or longer rallies. All the drivers this year have been in the same position, and Evans has made the best of it. In a shorter season, mistakes are penalised even more - and Tanak made a rally ending mistake in Monte and then another mistake in Mexico that cost him the win and a few more pts. Neuville had a very poor Sweden and then a rally ending mistake in Estonia. Both have had cruel luck as well with mechanical issues, but that's also a part of rallying. Ogier has had a mechanical in Turkey, but also has to look at himself for losing vital points when Kalle overhauled him on the power stage in Sweden, and when Neuville beat him in Sardinia.

Evans has done the best job so far and iirc has made no real mistakes. If he wins, I wouldn't view this as a tainted or lesser title. So i agree with King Carlos.

**mknight** · 4th December 2020, 05:58

Why doesn't anyone use tire-warmers now? (F1-style electric ones) Banned in some way or just didn't think about it?

**dimviii** · 4th December 2020, 06:00

Originally Posted by mknight

Why doesn't anyone use tire-warmers now? (F1-style electric ones) Banned in some way or just didn't think about it?

because you need service crew at every stage=cost

Good morning guys,wish to have a good fight,and may the fastest win!

**bluuford** · 4th December 2020, 06:01

Originally Posted by mknight

Why doesn't anyone use tire-warmers now? (F1-style electric ones) Banned in some way or just didn't think about it?

Banned

**EstWRC** · 4th December 2020, 06:02

pretty wet and raining and still quite dark out there

**mknight** · 4th December 2020, 06:04

Originally Posted by dimviii

because you need service crew at every stage=cost

Here on circuit you would need just one. Thx bluuford for clarification.

WRC cars got 2 extra wet tires allocated (bulletin n7 decision), over the 12 they had before.... while WRC2/3 quote is unchanged at 12.