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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    Looking at the webcam in the middle of SS12 they seem to get snow every year
    https://www.windy.com/nb/-Nettkamera...45.787,7.866,8
    - that camera is right next to the highest point of the rally (1270 m, highest point is just shy of 1350), whole 2 previous SS are a lot lower
    - 5.12.
    - normal approach for everyone is summer tires and chains
    - "snow" is one thing, snow staying on the road in thick layer is something else

    It was mentioned before that this is first time in 15 years they got snow down in Monza at all.

    Anyway we still don't know why it was cancelled.

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    I think we had one stage canceled in Australia 2017 because of heavy rain which would have prevented ambulances getting on/off the scene. It's not just the fact that there's snow, it's the wet snow and heavy snowfall which makes the conditions difficult for most vehicles. Better be safe than sorry.

    As for canceling SS10 after road being blocked and you saying rallying is now ridiculous...in the past decades the drivers who had to stop or slow down for a crashed car on the road never got any time refunds, so I think it's more fair this way. And like someone guessed, they didn't have the option to wait for a tow truck get Veiby out and restart the stage because TV stage was next.

    Also someone said we're getting red flags and canceled stages because the rally is organized by a motor circuit, just go back and see we've had red flags and canceled stages before...remember when Lappi's car burned in Mexico? Yes, the next stage was canceled because the only firetruck from the next stage was putting out the fire. Remember in Mexico 2019 when Lappi went half off the road? Red flag. Monte Carlo 2017 Sunday or 2019 Friday? Catalunya 2018? Circuit racing organizers? Also remember that the same FIA officials are organizing every event, it's not the locals who make the decisions. Finally, when Veiby pressed the SOS button in the car, that triggered the red flag automatically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Yes, that is the most likely reason for cancelation. Not the WRC tyres but the inability to reach them with ambulance in case they crash hard. It's not the first time we would have stage canceled exactly for that. And it happened also on rallies without snow.
    No fly weather be even on SS10 and SS11. So why they wouldn't canceled on a safety ground?
    Cuz cancellation of SS12 it's not a safety reasons I guess

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    Bugger, we would have good snow tires on board !
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    If rallies would be over 500km, we wouldnt mind couple of stage cancellations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    No fly weather be even on SS10 and SS11. So why they wouldn't canceled on a safety ground?
    Cuz cancellation of SS12 it's not a safety reasons I guess
    No-fly weather is normal thing for quarter of WRC stages.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Acropolis 2015 ERC last day 2nd loop was also cancelled for safety reasons due to heavy rainfall...
    When the safety vehicles cannot approach fast, there is no point to risk lives for sport!

    If your kid had an exit there and the ambulance cannot reach the spot in time then you would say why the f...k you did not cancel the damn stage... enough of that please...

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    Gutted for Elfyn really. Had he made it a couple of more kilometres more, it would have been safe. Need to check Tänak's onboard from the corner to see how he managed that

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    Well, if the reason is rescuevehicles cant make it, then it is understandable. But still big shame that one proper stage with challenging conditions is cancelled. If the rally was long it wouldnt make such a difference, but here it really is a big hit.

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    I totally agree that conditions are not nice. But this is, or should be, WRC. And I don't get that cancellation, if it was due snow, since everyone has known at least a week ago that there is a big big possibility for this kind of conditions. Safety is also important, but if the safety is the only point then we should consider cancelling this sport. Maybe there is something else on background, and probably there is, but this we will never find out.

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