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    Well Ypres was pretty boring for me, so the deal is similar in more way than one.

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    Estonia was boring and Ypres as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    https://www.rallit.fi/rallin-mm-sarj...stajan-kanssa/

    According to a Latvian site, Liepaja is negotiationg for a similar deal as Ypres, first two years in ERC and then possibly WRC in 2024. I hope not, because Liepaja is a boring rally with wide and straight roads and lots of chicanes. Unless they can spice it up with something more interesting like Estonia.
    I respect all you do AntiiL, but I wish that you sometimes would step out of the virtuality and experience rally in real life to understand the specific feel of each of them, including Rally Liepaja.

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    i don't really get how anyone could think a rally is boring when the first 5 drivers finish in the same minute. when at the end of saturday, 3 drivers are within 4 seconds.

    i wonder what make an exiting rally then.

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    When every other corner looks the same for two days, you can't tell the stages from one another,
    and alllive cameras show cars doing 40 kph on dusty junctions it's boring to watch on allive. (Onboards were better but with alllive scheme you only see onboard of first car for longer time).

    Sure with small differences it should be interesting to watch for times, but it somehow isn't when all the cars fighting with each other are from same team and nobody ever wins a stage by more than 2s. Means you don't need to "follow" cause 3 stages later the time difference will be just as small between them.

    In the end it feels relaxing to watch the cars on an F1 circuit cause you actually see different lines and car setups. Not just braking-90deg-throttle.
    Yes some of the vids recoded by (immortal) spectators were quite nice, but we didn't get to see those kind of pics on alllive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portimao View Post
    Estonia was boring and Ypres as well
    In terms of the route? I beg to disagree. Both rallies had excellent routes, except for the power stages!

    But Liepaja will be like 2 km flat out with maybe one drivable corner, chicane, 2 km flat out, junction, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by sindroms View Post
    I respect all you do AntiiL, but I wish that you sometimes would step out of the virtuality and experience rally in real life to understand the specific feel of each of them, including Rally Liepaja.
    I don't want to be mean against Latvian rally fans, and I always think that countries which are passionate about rallying should have a chance to host their own event. But at the same time, I think Liepaja is not WRC worthy as it is now, you need to work on the route. Estonia was a similar highway rally until 2017, then they started working on it and now they are a WRC event!

    As for attending rallies live, my time and money are not enough to visit all WRC and ERC events in the world so I must use only videos to judge their routes. However, that way they are all equal to each other. I have never visited Wales Rally GB but I still love those roads.

    Maybe you can explain to me what's so special about Liepaja?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Sure with small differences it should be interesting to watch for times, but it somehow isn't when all the cars fighting with each other are from same team and nobody ever wins a stage by more than 2s. Means you don't need to "follow" cause 3 stages later the time difference will be just as small between them.
    Isn't close competition what makes motorsport so exciting? Or would you rather a driver wins the opening stage by 30sec and the third-placed drive is another 30sec back and the positions never change for the rest of the rally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancia Stratos View Post
    Isn't close competition what makes motorsport so exciting?
    Not necessarily. In the group B era there was no close competition, the gaps were huge, but the sport was still exciting.
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancia Stratos View Post
    Isn't close competition what makes motorsport so exciting? Or would you rather a driver wins the opening stage by 30sec and the third-placed drive is another 30sec back and the positions never change for the rest of the rally?
    if you let drive Ogier against Neuville on the motorway between Vienna and Munich it will be also close competition....if it´s exiting i am not so sure...
    Juha Kankkunen: "The speed was o.K., but the corner was to tight"
    Marcus Grönholm: "... tell corrado .... three gears are enough..! "

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    the less technical the stages are the closer the gaps are gonna be between the drivers....

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