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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan View Post
    All they said was that he remains the most vocal and most visible supporter of the BLM movement .
    That is true , but has no bearing on whether he is allowed to display his message on the podium .

    If you accepted that Hamilton was sanctioned for entering pit lane when it was closed last race because it was a clear rule broken , then why wouldn't you accept him being sanctioned for breaching podium protocol if it's a clear rule ?
    The only thing that could save the situation for all involved is to deem whether it is a political message or not , as neither political nor religious messages are allowed .
    But , it should be made clear that , unless the rules are changed , it shouldn't happen .

    To be honest , Mr fan , I found the act to be somewhat disrespectful , as opposed to inspiring .
    They have dedicated a portion of the program specifically for a display of support .
    They have shown a well-produced promo multiple times during each airing specifically dedicated to the cause .
    There are many signs of support all around the paddock from the FIA and all the teams .

    It is far more publicity and respect for the cause than I expected from the FIA and F1 , and they should be commended .
    And , so should Lewis .
    Without him , most of it wouldn't have occurred .
    Bagwan, i still don't think you get it.
    I am not concerned if it is "allowed or not" and am fine with whatever punishment they want to hand out as it is worth it IMO over some regulation rule breach.
    And I believe that is a calculation Hamilton quite willing fully made. Despite it being not even something for anyone to get triggered by.

    Also as to the article here is a snippet of #9

    "Taylor's killing by Kentucky police officers in March has become one of the most high-profile cases of police brutality amid the anti-racism protests around the world in recent months.

    Hamilton wore a shirt bearing her name on the grid, and put it back on for the podium ceremony, only removing it for the champagne celebration. Taylor's face was on the rear of the t-shirt, with Hamilton turning around at the end of the national anthem for it to be picked up in full. Hamilton also ended his interview after his win by saying: "Justice for Breonna Taylor."

    The gammons spouting "keep politics out of sport!" were infuriated by such a show from Hamilton, making their opposition clear on social media. But for those of us in touch with reality and the issues facing the world right now, it was another reminder from Hamilton of how he wants to use his platform and how powerful it can be."


    If you find that disrespectful, then the question is to who? and why does it bother you?
    Finally your last statement is actually the most troubling

    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan View Post
    When it is simply not allowed , the "goodness" of the message doesn't matter.
    dude, if we went by that way of thinking, nothing would have ever changed in the entirety of history.
    Many things were not allowed until they were changed due to protest and the hard work of civil disobedience.
    Discrimination in all its ugly forms all over the world has been a bedrock of civilization.
    There was a time when Black people were not allowed to be free and held in bondage, so that was ok?
    Or not allowed to play in Major League Baseball
    Or women not allowed to vote
    or girls not allowed to choose to be married off as child
    heck, the Irish in this country weren't allowed to apply for certain jobs in the early 20th century
    Jews were not allowed any rights in 1940's Germany
    and so on and so on...
    What are you saying? that conformity even in the face of injustice is ok because "those are the rules?"
    progress should not wait for society, instead society is always forced to catch up to progress.
    That last statement really is a bit problematic
    oh well

    Ok. lol my final word on the matter

    lets get back to a discussion on the safety car issues, which i think deserve way more of a discussion and opinions than a peaceful protest at the end of the race
    can we agree on that?
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    Last edited by truefan72; 14th September 2020 at 17:47.
    you can't argue with results.

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