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    Grip level is hard to predict. To drag the car out of a ditch - very difficult. Look at Francois Duval in 2009:
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    Last edited by Jarek Z; 12th October 2020 at 14:03.
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    Alex Lukyanuk vs The Ditches of Ypres 0 - 1 !
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    Bernd Casier, despite his experience, ended in the ditch too!
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    Deep cut and deep ditch - bad combination for Josh Moffett in 2015:
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    So, summing up - when you go to Ypres, stay away from the ditches guys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    Completely different challenge indeed. It's very likely that most of this will be included in SS21: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIMh...el=gtrmaxvdb99
    Thanks, great stage but looking much more like Barum than Ypres :-D
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    a small taste from what will seeat Ypres?


    “They were some of the worst conditions I’ve ever driven in,” Breen told DirtFish. “It was just horrendous. We were aquaplaning all over the road. We’d have a 600-meter straight and we weren’t able to get the car beyond fourth gear – it was just sliding from side-to-side, all over the road.”

    For his first time in the car, Breen had been hoping for at least some dry and consistent conditions. They never came.

    “We went out on the slick tire for the first loop,” he added. “It was a disaster. It would’ve been nice to get a dry loop in, just one loop so I could get a feel for the thing. There was no shakedown or roll-out or anything. I took the car over the ramp and drove to the first stage and was then just fired straight into it.

    “Having said that, it’s really possible that we’ll have these conditions at some point during the Ypres Rally, so it makes sense to drive [with a compromised set-up], but it was really, really tricky.”

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-w...as-ypres-prep/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    a small taste from what will seeat Ypres?


    “They were some of the worst conditions I’ve ever driven in,” Breen told DirtFish. “It was just horrendous. We were aquaplaning all over the road. We’d have a 600-meter straight and we weren’t able to get the car beyond fourth gear – it was just sliding from side-to-side, all over the road.”

    For his first time in the car, Breen had been hoping for at least some dry and consistent conditions. They never came.

    “We went out on the slick tire for the first loop,” he added. “It was a disaster. It would’ve been nice to get a dry loop in, just one loop so I could get a feel for the thing. There was no shakedown or roll-out or anything. I took the car over the ramp and drove to the first stage and was then just fired straight into it.

    “Having said that, it’s really possible that we’ll have these conditions at some point during the Ypres Rally, so it makes sense to drive [with a compromised set-up], but it was really, really tricky.”

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-w...as-ypres-prep/
    Condition were very bad indeed. Some of the worst I've ever seen in my 4 years as a codriver.
    But the aquaplanning should be less of a problem in Ypres because of a different surface. Aarova rally had mainly concrete roads. While Ypres is mainly asphalt. On the concrete roads there is much more standing water.

    But cuts and mud dragged on the road will be very similar.

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    Note that the 2017+ I20 has always been in the top if not the fastest on slippery/tricky tarmac. It's when it's dry (and hot) that it struggled. So Ypres should definitely suit them.

    Very much doubt Ypres will be ran though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwbroe View Post
    I am afraid that it won't be in a more free way. Organizers are the same from Monteberg and also Aarova Rally wich was held last weekend. Spectator control is very strict and you were only allowed to go in specific spectator area's. I think it will be the same in Ypres Rally, surely for first two days. Maybe on sunday, stages held in Spa region, there will be some more liberty alltough the access to Francorchamps circuit will be very limited also. That is if the rally will take place, wich i doubt because of the still rising numbers of corona infections in Belgium.
    Sadly, that won't be a surprise. Ypres move from earlier October to late November was quite puzzling; was any justification given? And is there a chance for a last minute route change, with the whole event being run on Francorchamps circuit area? After Monza inclusion, I fear circuit racing may become usual in the WRC before this damn pandemic ends.
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