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    Makinen just can´t handle the fact, that his hope that Orgier dominating with Yaris like Tanak did in 2019 never happend. This combo Tanak -Yaris was just unbeatable, all the rest were only able to fight with him if he had some problems.

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    I still did not really figure out what the point was with that mess on Sunday tbh....

    Driving trough stage slowly to save tires is normal and ok, people do that all the time and some (Meeke, Mikkelsen, Ogier ++) have often done it in road-mode speed losing many minutes.

    But what Tanak/Hyundai did:
    - waited for some 15? or so mins before starting the stage out of order (just ahead of other Hyundais)
    - went in the stage and parked on the side of the road after some 100 meters in for 5 mins or so

    For what?
    - Didn't do any cleaning difference for any of the cars/teams. (It was second pass anyway as well)
    - Did still start the PS as first WRC after a few R5s, if they came on time they would seemingly start on similar position. This is because PS broadcast is fixed length (for TV) so they need a given number of cars in total.
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    The point imo was to give Hyundais extra 4 minutes for dust disappear, but it did not help much, because dust wasn`t issue anymore (it was in the morning)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eib1 View Post
    The point imo was to give Hyundais extra 4 minutes for dust disappear, but it did not help much, because dust wasn`t issue anymore (it was in the morning)
    This. They were expecting dust to be as bad so it would have given Neuville considerable advantage, not only by being able to drive faster but also to avoid puncture-causing stones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    This. They were expecting dust to be as bad so it would have given Neuville considerable advantage, not only by being able to drive faster but also to avoid puncture-causing stones.
    AnttiL, how media in Finland is serving Mäkinen's comments on Tänak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    This. They were expecting dust to be as bad so it would have given Neuville considerable advantage, not only by being able to drive faster but also to avoid puncture-causing stones.
    Can't remember a stage driven at 10:10 local that had any dust issues lately. Guess they got a bit too dust-paranoid after friday evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meh View Post
    AnttiL, how media in Finland is serving Mäkinen's comments on Tänak?
    There'a couple of articles which neutrally "translate" DirtFish's article, that's all.

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    Re Tanak / Hyundai / WRC tactics.

    Can you imagine in F1 if a top team's car broke down early in a race. Then late on it got fixed and came back out and was just driven around to interfere with and slow other teams cars, and then they put new tyres on to steal the point for fastest lap ?

    There would be a furore and calls of unsporting behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Re Tanak / Hyundai / WRC tactics.

    Can you imagine in F1 if a top team's car broke down early in a race. Then late on it got fixed and came back out and was just driven around to interfere with and slow other teams cars, and then they put new tyres on to steal the point for fastest lap ?

    There would be a furore and calls of unsporting behaviour.
    I don't follow F1. Does fastest lap give extra points?

    Also, Tänak wasn't deliberately interering or slowing down anyone (other than his teammates who had to pass him on the stage and be cautious at that). It would be a different story if Tänak had started slowly ahead of Ogier...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    I don't follow F1. Does fastest lap give extra points?

    Also, Tänak wasn't deliberately interering or slowing down anyone (other than his teammates who had to pass him on the stage and be cautious at that). It would be a different story if Tänak had started slowly ahead of Ogier...
    Yep extra point for fastest lap.

    Changing your starting position so as not to sweep the road for rival teams drivers could be seen as slowing them...

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