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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    Would you prefer one man winning 4 rallies before the season ends or 4 crews chasing the title(s) until the last meter of the last event? We only have 3 manuf. left, one falling behind already.
    4 crews chasing title is my choice but if one man wins 4 events he deserves THE TITLE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Re Tanak / Hyundai / WRC tactics.

    Can you imagine in F1 if a top team's car broke down early in a race. Then late on it got fixed and came back out and was just driven around to interfere with and slow other teams cars, and then they put new tyres on to steal the point for fastest lap ?

    There would be a furore and calls of unsporting behaviour.
    Yes, please let us get rid of this ridiculous system that pairs that has cars broken down on them or crashed, can score points at all. It is not logic!
    If you are out, you can not score points in rally or in powerstage.
    If you want to continue, it is only to practice, check notes or have fun.

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    Without it we would lose the series probably.

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    “The system we use for the gear shift is run by an electric motor,” Fowler told DirtFish. “The magnet is part of that motor and it’s the magnet that failed. It’s shattered. It’s a really small part, like 40mm in diameter and 60mm long – really small. Incredible that it can cause this kind of problem.

    “We’ve never seen this failure before and it’s pretty annoying. The magnet is why the problem was coming and going, because there was a piece of magnet in the motor that was getting stuck and it was resetting.

    “We think there’s a manufacturing defect with the magnet. We’re analysing it and doing some chemistry with it to see exactly why it shattered, but we think it’s because the part was very, very new. Before Ogier used that motor it had only done the run-in procedure, it was at less than 10% of its life. It was well within its limits and its running limits. That motor was destined to fail from the moment it left the manufacturers.”

    On the engine failure, Fowler added: “The only thing we know at this moment is that cylinder one was not functioning. We had a look inside the engine when the car came back from the stages, we drove the camera around inside [the cylinder] and from this we determined number one is no longer functional.

    “Until the engine has been disassembled and some very in-depth study made it’s very difficult to say what damage we see inside is as a result of the engine failing and what actually started it to fail – [the] engine [was] turning very fast at moment of failure, it looks like a complete mess. We don’t know what really happened at the beginning until you really spend some time on it and that’s happening in Cologne at the moment.”

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/cause...ssue-revealed/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    Without it we would lose the series probably.
    There's probably some truth in that.

    However, it's another example of changing the sport, and it's principles in the chase for more manufacturers, more fans & media. Where do you draw the line?

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Yes, please let us get rid of this ridiculous system that pairs that has cars broken down on them or crashed, can score points at all. It is not logic!
    If you are out, you can not score points in rally or in powerstage.
    If you want to continue, it is only to practice, check notes or have fun.
    For sure the teams would not re-enter the cars without the possibility to gain points.

    Another thing to consider is that up until the 90's, the cars were serviced between every stage (and more often still in the early 00's). Now they have to do up to 80 km of stages and even more of liaison between two services. That's still endurance racing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    Yes, please let us get rid of this ridiculous system that pairs that has cars broken down on them or crashed, can score points at all. It is not logic!
    If you are out, you can not score points in rally or in powerstage.
    If you want to continue, it is only to practice, check notes or have fun.
    We had this discussion already 15 years ago:
    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/5...-to-be-changed
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    For sure the teams would not re-enter the cars without the possibility to gain points.

    Another thing to consider is that up until the 90's, the cars were serviced between every stage (and more often still in the early 00's). Now they have to do up to 80 km of stages and even more of liaison between two services. That's still endurance racing!
    The reality is the sport has to offer maximum value for money for both the manufacture and the spectators. We aren’t in a position where we have so many entries it doesn’t matter if half the cars aren’t running on the last day.
    While I like the meritocracy of out means out, I also as a spectator want to see all WRC cars running wherever possible to maximise my spectating experience, and the teams won’t run them unless there is something tangible to be gained from doing so.

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    nice photo


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    Quote Originally Posted by doubled1978 View Post
    The reality is the sport has to offer maximum value for money for both the manufacture and the spectators. We aren’t in a position where we have so many entries it doesn’t matter if half the cars aren’t running on the last day.
    While I like the meritocracy of out means out, I also as a spectator want to see all WRC cars running wherever possible to maximise my spectating experience, and the teams won’t run them unless there is something tangible to be gained from doing so.
    Fair points.

    All I would change is anyone returning under Rally2 is barred from changing their starting position, or any other tactic to advantage their team-mates and/or disadvantage their rivals.
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