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    Why would they take risk for 2022 ?

    VB77 can be 2nd in every race if car is good enough (and win some when he has excellent day)

    Why would they dump him ?
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    I think where Bottas ends up very much depends on Hamilton. A year long extension signals to me that they may want to switch Russell over to partner Hamilton on 2022. I think Russell has proven his worth in the heap he is driving and deserves a chance at Mercedes. So if Hamilton stays, Bottas will be replaced I’d imagine- tough one to read for certain though.

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    Hello, I'm new here. My take on this is two fold

    1: I can understand why Toto did it, they want their #1 driver to win with the other driver not causing issues, and it works so why change it?

    2: Personally I was disappointed when I heard this. I'll be honest here, I am finding F1 very boring and utterly predicable in this hybrid era, with nobody even close to Mercedes. I feel that F1 would be far less boring (for us non Merc fans) if they had two top drivers. ie: Lewis-Charles, Lewis-Max or yes even Lewis-Fernando. with two drivers battling for the wins and title, the season would be in my opinion infinitely less dull. I mean no offence to Lewis but you know if he's in the lead on lap 1 corner 1. The race for the win is 99% over.

    I watched the 1988 season where McLaren won all but one race and it wasn't boring at all because Senna and Prost were battling each other. Lewis and Bottas is no challenge, not even 1%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveF1 View Post
    Hello, I'm new here. My take on this is two fold

    1: I can understand why Toto did it, they want their #1 driver to win with the other driver not causing issues, and it works so why change it?

    2: Personally I was disappointed when I heard this. I'll be honest here, I am finding F1 very boring and utterly predicable in this hybrid era, with nobody even close to Mercedes. I feel that F1 would be far less boring (for us non Merc fans) if they had two top drivers. ie: Lewis-Charles, Lewis-Max or yes even Lewis-Fernando. with two drivers battling for the wins and title, the season would be in my opinion infinitely less dull. I mean no offence to Lewis but you know if he's in the lead on lap 1 corner 1. The race for the win is 99% over.

    I watched the 1988 season where McLaren won all but one race and it wasn't boring at all because Senna and Prost were battling each other. Lewis and Bottas is no challenge, not even 1%.
    Can't argue with that , Steve .
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveF1 View Post

    2: Personally I was disappointed when I heard this. I'll be honest here, I am finding F1 very boring and utterly predicable in this hybrid era, with nobody even close to Mercedes. I feel that F1 would be far less boring (for us non Merc fans) if they had two top drivers. ie: Lewis-Charles, Lewis-Max or yes even Lewis-Fernando. with two drivers battling for the wins and title, the season would be in my opinion infinitely less dull. I mean no offence to Lewis but you know if he's in the lead on lap 1 corner 1. The race for the win is 99% over.
    So if you were in charge of this Hamilton and/or Verstappen/Leclerc/Alonso super team, how would you deal with the construction and development of the car? Will you go down the road where it benefits one of the drivers, or will you compromise both by trying to get something suitable for both?

    How will you deal with a scenario where in a series of races, one mostly benefits from pit strategies?

    How do you watch the 88 season and be new to F1?

    edit: Also, what would you do in your super team when the working relationship exposes a weakness of one or the other, and it shows up in the point total?
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    Quote Originally Posted by journeyman racer View Post
    So if you were in charge of this Hamilton and/or Verstappen/Leclerc/Alonso super team, how would you deal with the construction and development of the car? Will you go down the road where it benefits one of the drivers, or will you compromise both by trying to get something suitable for both?

    How will you deal with a scenario where in a series of races, one mostly benefits from pit strategies?

    How do you watch the 88 season and be new to F1?

    edit: Also, what would you do in your super team when the working relationship exposes a weakness of one or the other, and it shows up in the point total?
    I'm not a team boss and never will be but I would try to compromise and develop something they can both deal with. Maybe if, by mid season one would be miles ahead in the points I would perhaps focus the car towards their needs.

    When I said I was new, I meant to this forum, not to F1. I have been watching F1 since the days of Jochen Rindt.

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    I think he regrets his decision to re-sign now , because the black outfit is too hot .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan View Post
    I think he regrets his decision to re-sign now , because the black outfit is too hot .
    Bottas is not going to live that one down for a while l think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by journeyman racer View Post
    So if you were in charge of this Hamilton and/or Verstappen/Leclerc/Alonso super team, how would you deal with the construction and development of the car? Will you go down the road where it benefits one of the drivers, or will you compromise both by trying to get something suitable for both?

    How will you deal with a scenario where in a series of races, one mostly benefits from pit strategies?

    How do you watch the 88 season and be new to F1?

    edit: Also, what would you do in your super team when the working relationship exposes a weakness of one or the other, and it shows up in the point total?
    Mercedes had that problem when Rosberg was in the team and they got the balance right. But there were noticeable occassions when aspects of the car favoured one driver over the other. But they were quick to redress the balance. Hence, l don't think this is an issue in Mercedes currently. And unlikely to be an issue in the futute if Toto is still at the helm.
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