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    Quote Originally Posted by MartijnS View Post
    Wrong link?
    sorry guys,it just playing next video automaticaly as ends the video you watch
    this is the correct link
    https://www.facebook.com/1fan2rallye...1132106631746/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    I believe it is due to the available space in the Monte Carlo harbour (number of Sunday competitors was limited even in IRC times when there was no superally but many more competitors than now). The principality is a small and packed place. For sure no other event than RMC could ask for that but as we have seen in the past Monte Carlo outside of WRC is too dangerous for WRC popularity so it's worth to let them some freedom.
    This rule has existed since ancient times, even when the field was 300+ starters. Only the top 60 classifiers (number that I remember) after the "common run" (major , multi-days section over Ardeche, Vercors, Chartreuse ... all possible Alpine mountains) were eligible for the last sectionwhich was a full night on the mountains above Monaco. Labelled in French "la nuit du Turini - Turini's nigh". The survivors were greeted by the (warm) sunrise above Monaco in the wee hours in the morning. Part of the magic... we teenagers were listening the radio all night - the morning in school was a bit hard !

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    Quote Originally Posted by djip View Post
    This rule has existed since ancient times, even when the field was 300+ starters. Only the top 60 classifiers (number that I remember) after the "common run" (major , multi-days section over Ardeche, Vercors, Chartreuse ... all possible Alpine mountains) were eligible for the last sectionwhich was a full night on the mountains above Monaco. Labelled in French "la nuit du Turini - Turini's nigh". The survivors were greeted by the (warm) sunrise above Monaco in the wee hours in the morning. Part of the magic... we teenagers were listening the radio all night - the morning in school was a bit hard !
    The Turini night (2009-2011 for me) was possibly the most intense rally experience of my life. There were even crews who celebrated passing the midnight Turini stopping there for a while (even Daniel Elena as a driver did so). We got back to Menton around 4-5 a.m. but happy. Fantastic times even without WRC!
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Has no one developed a rally space saver tyre, to be used on road sections. Reduce weight instead of having two full tires?

    The Africa eco-race did drive throughs of Monte-Carlo and assembled elsewhere, perhaps the rally needs to do something similar.
    Last edited by Humber; 23rd January 2021 at 20:42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    The liaison is part of the rally route just like the stages are.
    But I wish it wasn't. It's a hangover from 100 years ago. I'd love to get rid of it entirely, but I think that would get in the way of scrutineering etc in practice.

    Without that it's not rally anymore.
    So?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djip View Post
    FIA/WRC should delete that stupid super-rally rule. Rallying is as much about speed as it is about finishing the event (=surviving the road).
    Bring on rally Gap. I'm sure they can find parking for more than 60 cars, and drivers wouldn't have the long liaisons, and now that Corsica is gone we don't have to pretend that The Rally In The French Alps is not a second French rally anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morte66 View Post
    But I wish it wasn't. It's a hangover from 100 years ago. I'd love to get rid of it entirely, but I think that would get in the way of scrutineering etc in practice.

    So?
    Have you though about following another sport if you don't like the fundaments of this one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morte66 View Post
    Bring on rally Gap. I'm sure they can find parking for more than 60 cars, and drivers wouldn't have the long liaisons, and now that Corsica is gone we don't have to pretend that RMC is not a second French rally anymore.
    You know that Rallye Monte Carlo without Monte Carlo is not Rallye Monte Carlo? You know that the organizer of the event since 1910 is Monaco principality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Have you though about following another sport if you don't like the fundaments of this one?
    Frequently. Road cleaning sucks, it means rallies like Sardegna depend more on starting order than car or driver. But I put up with it so far.

    As for fundamentals... the fundamentals of rallying is special stages. Liaison is a historical relic and/or practical requirement for scrutineering. I pay my 8.99 to watch special stages, not to hear that I will be watching less of the special stages because of something outside them.

    You know that Rallye Monte Carlo without Monte Carlo is not Rallye Monte Carlo?
    Yes. And I am absolutely 100% fine with that if we can replace it with a Rally Gap that is a better rally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morte66 View Post
    Yes. And I am absolutely 100% fine with that if we can replace it with a Rally Gap that is a better rally.
    Are you funding it?

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