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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    yeah it is but today, with conditions being really hard and the knowing that you cant continue tomorrow if the tyres go, they should have had 2 spares. i was surprised right away when i saw in the morning that they only have one

    and in monza, where there was basically service after every stage, he carried two ones the whole rally
    I think everybody related too much on the old michelin habits assuming pirelli will work the same, but ended up differently. maybe it's just me, but i don't remember so much punture on snow previous years and after that loop everybody carried 2 spare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Who should stop them? Should Tänak be penalized for not stopping when the tyre turned into a plain rim?
    I know some situations in the past few years where the Technical Delegate or some other FIA member would wait in the road section for the driver driving on the rim and would stop them right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyler View Post
    I think everybody related too much on the old michelin habits assuming pirelli will work the same, but ended up differently. maybe it's just me, but i don't remember so much punture on snow previous years and after that loop everybody carried 2 spare.
    yeah could be, and somebody already mentioned here, it seems to come off the rim quite quickly compared to michelin
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    Yes, most cars with punctures were all on the rim at the end, I don't remember any cars with flat tyres , all the tyre had gone compared to Michelin when the tyre usually stayed on the rim.

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    So, it's a hattrick. del Barrio also 400 Euro. Guigou 200 for balaclava outside the suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom K View Post
    So, it's a hattrick. del Barrio also 400 Euro. Guigou 200 for balaclava outside the suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    Yes we know; you don't have to correct everybody all the time. My comment was before seeing the 'tyre' or what was supposed to be a tyre.
    However, it's a poorly implemented rule - as it's not stopping people from driving on any road section; which is the reason they brought it in - it doesn't look good to general public.
    Personally I don’t like that we are losing cars from rallies simply because they don’t have a tyre to drive the road section back to service on. I know it’s rallying etc, but to my mind the time loss on the SS is enough, for Tanak to be out completely for this is ridiculous to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubled1978 View Post
    Personally I don’t like that we are losing cars from rallies simply because they don’t have a tyre to drive the road section back to service on. I know it’s rallying etc, but to my mind the time loss on the SS is enough, for Tanak to be out completely for this is ridiculous to me.
    Usually it was only about traffic rules and police, if they have stopped that cars or not. Later FIA added this rule to the regulations and started to punish for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PLuto View Post
    Usually it was only about traffic rules and police, if they have stopped that cars or not. Later FIA added this rule to the regulations and started to punish for it.
    Which was a correct step. Before it lead to number of traffic craziness and potentially negative publicity among general public (Elena sitting in the window during a drive on the motorway for example) and it was also very selective who got away with it and who didn't. If you have two drivers doing the very same thing, let's say in Mexico, and one's name is Loeb and the other's is let's say Bulacia. Who has a higher chance that the police let him pass? Now they are even, at least in something.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    It's completely absolutely totally ridiculous that Tanak won't be driving tomorrow because of this.
    Tanak as a driver is safer on the road than a 90 y/o half blind person that would have been perfectly legal to drive, even if he was to drive on his brake rotors.
    What I'm saying is that in current times where there aren't too many rallies, half of the calendar will be inevitably cancelled compromises should have been made. 400 euro fine for Ogier is nothing and his offence is totally health/life threatening compared to Tanaks.

    Please use your brains and question decisions. Right now people are living in tirany because of blind obedience of whatever stupid rules. Now go on and hit me with "rules are rules".

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