[WRC] Rallye Monte Carlo 2021

**Mirek** · 24th January 2021, 17:13

Originally Posted by doubled1978

I agree with some of that, but not the bit about them having more punctures in the stages, in modern rallying the results are often decided by very small margins, and a puncture in stage is often the end of a chance to win/podium or whatever, so I think that they will wish to avoid that at all costs.
My personal opinion, is that with these Pirelli tyres, we may (initially) see more punctures than we have been used to recently. Let’s be honest the Michelin’s of recent years have been amazing really given the hammering they got.

You have seen it here. Everybody knew (and it was loudly discussed) that the new Pirelli tyres are more prone to punctures, yet still Tänak decided to gamble and took only one spare risking a retirement if things go wrong - and they did.

That is a sort of the transition pain. People keep having their mind set from the previous period and ignoring clearly visible warning signs. That's something natural to man kind but what applies as well, is that people always addapt quickly.

**doubled1978** · 24th January 2021, 17:18

Originally Posted by Mirek

You have seen it here. Everybody knew (and it was loudly discussed) that the new Pirelli tyres are more prone to punctures, yet still Tänak decided to gamble and took only one spare risking a retirement if things go wrong - and they did.

That is a sort of the transition pain. People keep having their mind set from the previous period and ignoring clearly visible warning signs. That's something natural to man kind but what applies as well, is that people always addapt quickly.

I agree it was a bad decision , but for me the time loss in stage was enough of a punishment, not retirement from the whole event.

**SubaruNorway** · 24th January 2021, 17:24

Did anyone get a puncture that was not with the winter tire?
That was quite normal for Michelin also though

**dimviii** · 24th January 2021, 17:39

Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

Did anyone get a puncture that was not with the winter tire?
That was quite normal for Michelin also though

without have checked,this is my impression too.

**dimviii** · 24th January 2021, 18:12

A quick word on rallying in general and Hyundai's performance compared to Toyota?

“The Yaris were clearly faster. We tried everything, but except in a stage where I drove really well, they were always ahead. It was a tough weekend for Hyundai. We were never really in. We are therefore not very happy and we will have to try to understand why during the debriefing with the team. "

https://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/...ad5844d1ac4ceb

**Mirek** · 24th January 2021, 18:20

Originally Posted by dimviii

A quick word on rallying in general and Hyundai's performance compared to Toyota?

“The Yaris were clearly faster. We tried everything, but except in a stage where I drove really well, they were always ahead. It was a tough weekend for Hyundai. We were never really in. We are therefore not very happy and we will have to try to understand why during the debriefing with the team. "

https://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/...ad5844d1ac4ceb

There was a huge difference in the cars even for an eye of the TV spectator and I am sure you saw that too. The Toyotas were like go karts while the Hyundais were very stable and clean but also somewhat clumsy. They almost looked like having 200 kg more.

To be honest Hyundais looked like I expected the current WRC generation to look on asphalt when they were first introduced - strong and powerful but dull. Toyota is something different - for me as a amateur I would not expected a car looking so wild and playful to be faster...

**AnttiL** · 24th January 2021, 18:24

Originally Posted by EstWRC

Sordo - so and so, but it isnt his favourite event so i think did well.

Greensmith, Katsuta, Loubet - couple of good stage times from Loubet, also some splits from Katsuta were good i remember on some of the stages but they all are still learning and have a lot to learn.

Sordo had a few very good stage times, twice second and twice third. But sometimes he was just off the pace, with no relation to the conditions. Sordo was also told to back off once Tänak retired.

Katsuta was also once fourth and twice fifth, but was often on Greensmith pace level and made a few small mistakes.

**doubled1978** · 24th January 2021, 18:43

Originally Posted by Mirek

There was a huge difference in the cars even for an eye of the TV spectator and I am sure you saw that too. The Toyotas were like go karts while the Hyundais were very stable and clean but also somewhat clumsy. They almost looked like having 200 kg more.

To be honest Hyundais looked like I expected the current WRC generation to look on asphalt when they were first introduced - strong and powerful but dull. Toyota is something different - for me as a amateur I would not expected a car looking so wild and playful to be faster...

On this I do agree with you, the Toyota is a very impressive piece of kit.
Difficult to describe, but I can say like this, the others look designed to the regulations, the Toyota looks designed to take advantage of the regulations..

**meh** · 24th January 2021, 18:47

We have vegans who need to state everywhere that they are vegans.
We have no Sanders (meme) sitting in every picture.
.. and now we have Mirek who need to write often "but Tänak made wrong tyre choice!"

get over it, Tänak rerired, rally is over, life goes on. Breath.