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Thread: [WRC] Rallye Monte Carlo 2021
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24th January 2021, 19:04 #1351
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Now I should be a traditionalist as well (even though it´s kind of "whatabout..."): In the past every crew of a rallycar had to start from different European cities. You know, Stockholm, London, Oslo und so weite... 2500 K of liasion before reaching Monte Carlo and the real stages... That´s tradition to me.
Since Monte nowadays have nothing of that. A change of rules making competitive drivers go on competing, only helped by a new tyre at the start of final liasion, wouldn´t be that big deviation from todays modern rules.
Else, as a traditionalist way of looking at Monte we should go back to 50´s."Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...
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24th January 2021, 19:06 #1352
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24th January 2021, 19:08 #1353
40th PS win to Ogier / Ingrassia
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24th January 2021, 19:08 #1354
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99% of cases the spare tyre at the last liaison wouldn’t be needed. It would be a huge expense for nothing. And double punctures could still happen in the middle of a loop.
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24th January 2021, 20:11 #1355
I have to admit this is one of the few Monte's I've seen (since 2008) that a (relatively) small amount of crews (WRC that is) didn't finish the event (yes I know their weren't too many to begin with) but still, well done to them. Also, have to admit I was genuinely impressed by Katsuta being faster than Loubet & Greensmith and actually keeping it on the road and finishing 6th. Evans also did a very good job, keeping it clean, quick, and steady. Hopefully he learned enough this year from Ogier to challenge for the win next year.
Neuville also deserves some credit, yes he won the event last year, but to come here with a new co-driver and finish on the podium, good for him and his co-driver. Sordo also managed a good rally if you consider the fact he hasn't been here since 2018 and I'm guessing he and Carlos had some pressure after Tanak's DNF. If anything, it was Hyundai who made the mistake choosing the wrong tyres for the critical parts of the event.
And to anyone who doubted Ogier last year and said he isn't the king of Monte-Carlo anymore, he proved them all wrong. He took his 50th career win in quite some style and I'm glad he won his last Monte equaling (or breaking actually- 2009's IRC) Sebastien Loeb's record and unlike Loeb, Ogier did it with 5 cars including the: 207S2000, VW Polo R WRC, Ford Fiesta WRC, Citroen C3 WRC & the Toyota Yaris WRC, quite a feat which I don't think anyone will beat.
I'm guessing the next round will be a new (level) playing field for most crews and drivers, one which I cannot wait for, 5 weeks is too long, bring on Arctic Rally Finland!Only you know your true potential.
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24th January 2021, 20:15 #1356
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https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-s-ogier...driver-one-day
Read this, and you don't have to click any Dirtfish or Autosport articles in the following few days
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24th January 2021, 20:17 #1357
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24th January 2021, 20:21 #1358Only you know your true potential.
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24th January 2021, 20:32 #1359
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Rules are rules and should be respected.
However, can someone tell me one, only one, accident that has happened because a rally driver drove in liaison sections on a rim? Please mention one accident, and I am willing to forget all the things I have seen from Bjorn Waldegard, Kenneth Eriksson, Seb Loeb and so many others driving, not on a rim but without even a rim. Please mention one such accident. Otherwise, I will remain on the side of Bjorn, Kenneth and Seb.
To be honest, as a driver I find this rule hypocritical, to say the least. I have driven stages on a rim (including a very tough Acropolis stage) and so have done almost all drivers. The safety issue is much more important IN a special stage, not in a liaison section, especially these days that average speeds in liaison section are very low. I have seen Bjorn driving like a maniac in 5th gear on a rim, in a stage full of spectators, and Kenneth driving two stages the Golf with the rear axle hitting the ground, not slowly at all, and then fix the car and go on to win his class. Both of them, as well as the rest I have seen, including myself, WERE NOT DANGEROUS in the liaison section driving in normal speeds. All of them, including myself, were dangerous for the spectators IN THE STAGE. This is why I find this rule hypocritical.
P.S. In my opinion, Ott in a WRC car on 3 wheels is much safer in normal road speeds than 99% of drivers in usual cars on 4 wheels. However, this is just an opinion and should only be regarded as an opinion. The aforementioned safety issues and comparisons are not an opinion, they are facts.Last edited by scn; 24th January 2021 at 20:55.
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24th January 2021, 20:34 #1360
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Huge expence? For saving a driver still be around, not going home? Investing millions in a car and driver, it should be a no cost to keep them stay in a rally, having a spare for the last liasion...
Getting double puncture in a middle of a loop isn´t about what´s been discussed. That´s a retire thing. A rally2, if not in Monte Saturday, which also is a ridiculous rule from ACM, no matter they´ve got space for parkings or not.
Btw: I started a new thread about weird or crazy rules needed a change."Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...
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