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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC View Post
    https://dirtfish.com/rally/why-the-p...-has-a-future/

    Interesting thoughts - but, and it's a major but; surely the teams & WRC Promoter would want to keep the current 'event format'? However, in my view, the event and the sport in the UK would be better served by an event that is less restrictive.
    What do you mean with less restrictive? Allowing remote services? Longer routes? It's more of an issue of expenses less than regulations.

    One piece of that article doesn't fit my math. They say that it would be good to have multiple regions arranging the event to get more budget. At the same time, each region would get less exposure and hospitality revenue in return. Also title sponsoring would be more difficult (as I mentioned on my blog post )

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    One piece of that article doesn't fit my math. They say that it would be good to have multiple regions arranging the event to get more budget. At the same time, each region would get less exposure and hospitality revenue in return. Also title sponsoring would be more difficult (as I mentioned on my blog post )
    I agree with your assessment. I can't see how it wouldn't primarily need to rely on a commercial title sponsor or a philanthropist if it were to go national again. Maybe (well, pre-Covid) you could have got £150k to £250k in public funding from each region for their day of the event, with a premium for the Start and Finish, but that'd leave you short of the full budget required.

    You're not going to get a bigger budget from a collection of regions than we have seen from Wales alone for their event.

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    Travelling around the regions during one event is never going to happen again (like the RAC days).

    One region has to be the main place and source of funds with maybe a short venture to one other area (like a city stage, of a couple of stately homes).
    #M-SPORTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Travelling around the regions during one event is never going to happen again (like the RAC days).

    One region has to be the main place and source of funds with maybe a short venture to one other area (like a city stage, of a couple of stately homes).
    If I win the lottery, it'll definitely happen.

    Seriously though, while I don't think it's likely, I don't think it's impossible. The easiest option is a single region event, hopefully rotating between different regions, funded almost wholly by the public. But that relies on regions providing quite a large amount of public funding for an event which doesn't really tick any of the right boxes in the 21st Century... I think it'll become almost impossible for any regional Government to justify funding a rally so dearly when wider public policy is so anti-car, particularity ICE powered car, which rallying will be based on for a long time to come. Northern Ireland is probably the safest bet, Wales too as it is so car dependant as a nation and rallying still means something there, but how long before an 'enlightened' group of politicians decide enough is enough? Something other than the current model might become the only option.

    Going back to what might have been this year, while it might have been a challenge, the Sunday leg seems to me increasingly like it would have been a massive missed opportunity. That could have been a great opportunity to let Rally GB make a far greater impact on a much wider population, when this could have been one of the few remaining opportunities to sell rallying to the wider public and sponsors. Time is running out for Rally GB, playing it safe is ultimately killing the sport here anyway, so why not put ones neck out?

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    Remember that you also need a base event, some rallying culture, organizers with experience, you cannot just put up a WRC event from nothing. That's why Northern Ireland is a strong candidate. Why not Scotland also, or the Kielder area. We come again back to my idea to have an event run in Scotland, Kielder and Lake District, but it again poses the issue of multiple regions.

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    Genuine question..
    Does the Monte span more than one region?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    Genuine question..
    Does the Monte span more than one region?
    Is the Monte arranged by a rich automobile club and sponsored by a famous casino? There's a reason they don't even have to sell tickets to the stages...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Is the Monte arranged by a rich automobile club and sponsored by a famous casino? There's a reason they don't even have to sell tickets to the stages...
    Was that an answer?
    Thought you were the guru.

    Do any other events make it work across many regions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    Was that an answer?
    I thought you posed a rhetorical question.
    Do any other events make it work across many regions?
    Not really. Portugal has the Friday stages around Arganil and Sweden does a long liaison for the Karlstad super special.

    Drivers do not like long liaisons
    Teams don't like remote servicing (even if it's just tyre change area)
    Teams and organizers don't like to have their service park being empty during a weekend.
    Most spectators don't really care if the rally is in a small/single region or not.
    The organizers struggle already now to have the recce in two days (Monte has to have three recce days)
    Last edited by AnttiL; 2nd July 2020 at 18:52.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    I thought you posed a rhetorical question.

    Not really. Portugal has the Friday stages around Arganil and Sweden does a long liaison for the Karlstad super special.

    Drivers do not like long liaisons
    Teams don't like remote servicing (even if it's just tyre change area)
    Teams and organizers don't like to have their service park being empty during a weekend.
    Most spectators don't really care if the rally is in a small/single region or not.
    The organizers struggle already now to have the recce in two days (Monte has to have three recce days)
    It was a genuine question.

    The whole thing feels like it needs to do something different, that's for sure.

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