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    guys. it is way simpler. if you not agree on the numbers, just check your hospitals.

    flu never collapsed any hospital.

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    Also I read that up to 14% of all confirmed infected cases in Spain and over 8% in Italy is the medical staff. It means that the virus already managed to eliminate around 5-6 thousand medical workers in each country further worsening the already bad situation.
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    And on top of this, a overloaded health system will not be able to treat everyone. This also goes for people who are sick for other reasons than covid 19. Surgeries get cancelled, treatments delayed/cancelled. Medicine storages gets emptied. People will die because of Corona without even contracting the virus themselves, because the resources are limited.

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    As there are no rallies right now, I have been involved in some research work related to the virus. Maybe interesting to read for you.

    Normally, only 14-16 % of cases are discovered, rest is invisible for us. That means, we could have ca 1 million infected persons in Italy, as the number of tests are also limited.

    8% of people detected need intensive care. So, if we have 100 infected, 8 need to be in hospital, if 1000, it is 80, if we have 10000, we have 800, if we have close to 70 000, like in Italy today, we need 5600 people in intensive care, + normal patients. It seems that in Italy, the number of diagnosed cases is definitely below average (14%) an likely below 10%, that means, hospitals are overcrowded and you have to choose which patient you save, and which one you let to die. If you let the disease spread too fast, results are awful, I suggest you to follow what is going to happen in next days in USA, UK, and Turkey. Easy to follow here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    My work has been to detect relations between rapid increases and weather. I have analysed 7 places, Wuhan, Daegu, Milano, Madrid, Istanbul, Brussels and New York so far. In each case, dominant weather before rapid increase was temperature between -5...+10 degrees, high pressure area, many days with light wind and sunshine and low humidity during mid-days. During rapid increase, weather has been mostly between 0 and +10 degrees, other parameters the same. The places where decrease has happened, it seems that daily minimum temperatures are mostly over +10 degrees and maximums start to increase over +20 degrees. Good thing is also rain, clouds, strong wind high humidity. It is still spreading, but weather is inhibiting it significantly.

    Chinese researchers have found that over +26 degrees, virus is surfaces is disappearing very fast. Another factor is that when you breathe in, you are likely tho have more harsh consequences, as virus is directly reaching to your lungs. When you get it from surface, touch your eyes, nose, mouth, then it is likely less severe, as your body has time to react.

    Now, In Meditearranen region, specially around mountains, this year has had very nice wetaher with couple of storm days with heavy precipitation. It has led to situation that in the mountains we have huge cold-bank and it keeps surrounding regions cooler, where we have currently a lot of virus cases. In case of sunny weather and high pressure system, we have uplifting airflows, so, when you breathe out, virus particles are likely floating in air for much longer time and more likely, someone is breathing it in. So, that might be also reason why around alps, there are more severe cases. And finally, with nice weather, you have more people outside

    Finally, minimize contacts, but if possible, move around but not with many people together and preferably with bad weather When weather is nice, sunny, around +10 degrees, calm, keep much longer distance from other people.


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    Of topic. Is it possible to modify the forum so that it doesn't add advertisements directly into the posts? That's absolutely awful. I see three adverts in just one post of Bluuford.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Of topic. Is it possible to modify the forum so that it doesn't add advertisements directly into the posts? That's absolutely awful. I see three adverts in just one post of Bluuford.
    yes its very awful.You want to go to last post,and this part is covered from the advertisement.

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    Why not use one of the ad blocking plugins?
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    Why not use one of the ad blocking plugins?
    On my own PC it's no problem but I can't install anything on the work one.

    Still it's awful to put advers into the posts. It can be placed anywhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    On my own PC it's no problem but I can't install anything on the work one.

    Still it's awful to put advers into the posts. It can be placed anywhere else.
    that for me too

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    As someone that has suffered a spontaneous pneumothorax, been hospitalised for a month, operated on and had the upper section of the left hand lobe removed, kicked out onto the street with a portable lung and what amounted to an open wound with no other option to stand up on a train for a 50mile commute home, with no antibiotics supplied by the hospital, all I can say is anyone treating this virus with anything other than caution need their head examined.

    Stay safe!

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