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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Ahh I see, Mikkelsen's complete lack of pace on 2 wet tires meant that Pernia that wasn't pushing on his 4 slicks wasn't able to beat him.

    For a moment there I was a bit confused.
    Pernia was at Saturday stages 16th,16th,14th,12th,15th,6th,2nd,2nd.
    at Friday was 18th,23th,37th,23th,5th,5th,11th,13th,11th
    it is easy to understand that he was fast when nobody pushed,exactly like Mikkelsen .
    So he is not the driver at this rally to measure Mikkelsens speed.
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    Mikkelsen's tyre choices f***** his chances:

    https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-t...-monza-warm-up

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    Mikkelsen showing what his issues are on this rally. Whenever he doesn't have optimum feeling with the car/ setup/tyres, his times can plummet massively along with his confidence.

    This is one of the reasons why he hasn't kicked on like Neuville, Tanak etc. In rallying you will be on the wrong tyres, you will have the wrong setup or the car won't be at it's best at times, but the best drivers make the most of it.

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    Andreas Mikkelsen has published the second part of his My Life video from Canarias. He hoped for a good tyre choice...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhvdbNPtKsc
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    Mikkelsen showing what his issues are on this rally. Whenever he doesn't have optimum feeling with the car/ setup/tyres, his times can plummet massively along with his confidence.

    This is one of the reasons why he hasn't kicked on like Neuville, Tanak etc. In rallying you will be on the wrong tyres, you will have the wrong setup or the car won't be at it's best at times, but the best drivers make the most of it.
    indeed. the ability to go fast when things are not right is what separates the good from the best drivers.
    latvala was just the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    Mikkelsen showing what his issues are on this rally. Whenever he doesn't have optimum feeling with the car/ setup/tyres, his times can plummet massively along with his confidence.

    This is one of the reasons why he hasn't kicked on like Neuville, Tanak etc. In rallying you will be on the wrong tyres, you will have the wrong setup or the car won't be at it's best at times, but the best drivers make the most of it.
    Somehow I agree you can point this to his WRC career, but looking back to this exact rally and Mikkelsen's point of view (as also he explained in his video series) - after friday first loop stages, his chances for high result were gone (lost almost 2min) and further bad tyre choices didnt elevate his confidence either, so there was no point of taking any unnecesary risks during the rest of the rally (damaging the car or even crashing out pushing for really nothing). He had absolutely nothing to prove here. We all know he can be fast, this just wasnt his weekend and thats that. The main thing here is - what can you as driver take from this bad experience (or poor decision making tyre choices) and use it in good way to your future starts.

    And this time we dont have to wait long... the Monza rally is just around the corner. Lets see what lessons he has learned and how can he will adapt to new circumstances.

    EDIT: Tyre choice is really tricky thing when you have conditions like last weekend. In WRC there is a weather crew working for you on that, but when you are on your own with incomplete information, thats different. He went for risk and it didnt work out. That happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lead View Post
    EDIT: Tyre choice is really tricky thing when you have conditions like last weekend. In WRC there is a weather crew working for you on that, but when you are on your own with incomplete information, thats different. He went for risk and it didnt work out. That happens.
    The following is not exactly about Mikkelsen since I don't know his conditons.

    This is a thing many people tend to overlook. Things like this play huge role and of course to have them properly sorted costs money. A lot of money which is not dedicated to the cost of the car and its running and which is therefore often ignored in discussions about budgets and cost saving. The thing however is that often it is better to spend much more and get the result instead of spending less and getting nothing back. In other words to succeed from time to time with limited budget is possible but to succeed systematically in a long run needs more than a driver and a car.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    When tricky conditions, it is always smart to "spy" on the best local drivers to see what kind of tires they put on.
    They have driven same kind of roads many times before, and have good weather intel from friends out on the stages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland View Post
    When tricky conditions, it is always smart to "spy" on the best local drivers to see what kind of tires they put on.
    They have driven same kind of roads many times before, and have good weather intel from friends out on the stages.
    Exactly, thats a thing I always wonder about. If not sure, you can always seek more info from local drivers. Who else would know better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lead View Post
    Exactly, thats a thing I always wonder about. If not sure, you can always seek more info from local drivers. Who else would know better?
    we used to do it even with just rally fans they happened to be friends.They were spread at many stages,and plenty of times we had usefull weather info real time from various parts of stages.

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