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    What would lead them to inspect the subframe? Itís a fairly integrated part in terms of what is bolted to it, isnít it? Would they have spotted something / totally random / had a tip off?
    Letís face it, 25g is pretty much invisible isnít it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    Let’s face it, 25g is pretty much invisible isn’t it.
    It was not 25 gramms lighter but 211 gramms lighter.

    You guys mix nominal homologated value with lower tolerance limit. That is two different things. Guess why there is the tolerance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    No, it would not have been silly. It would be perfectly by the rules applied to everyone else.

    Again, this decision completely contradicts last week decision about exclusion of Lindholm from the Rally Liepaja and about hundreds of other cases.
    Aren't fines current nowadays in the wrc? when was the last time that a manu driver was 'properly' penalized for tech infrigements? But you're totally right on the privateers discrimination, althought for some of them these values would probably mean a huge blow on their budgets.

    P.S.: huge congrats to Sordo/del Barrio, Huttunen/Lukka and Hyundai.
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    I'm with Mirek on this one. There's tolerances and they were below MINIMUM weight.

    I can understand in both ways and problably Sordo did not gain any real advantage because of it but in the same time these are the RULES. And rules should've applied to anyone.

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    I'm actually shocked there's been no time penalty or even disqualification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    What would lead them to inspect the subframe? Itís a fairly integrated part in terms of what is bolted to it, isnít it? Would they have spotted something / totally random / had a tip off?
    Letís face it, 25g is pretty much invisible isnít it.
    Could it be that It was subframe that got a crack or something on Tšnak's car on Friday causing the "suspension problem" and they wanted to check if something was done to it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    It was not 25 gramms lighter but 211 gramms lighter.

    You guys mix nominal homologated value with lower tolerance limit. That is two different things. Guess why there is the tolerance?
    Ah - OK.. must have misinterpreted.

    Iím still pretty certain he didnít get disqualified from the rally because of the threat of them pulling out of the championship.

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    It is perfectly possible to also give time penalties and not just disqualification or fine (= nothing).
    Lukyanuk go 1 min penalty for similar thing last year in Roma Capitale.


    Off course it's a political decision not to "anger" Hyundai, and we know that Tommi is not really a guy to complain too much. Ogier might...

    Imo the "wise" middle ground would have been to give him 1 min penalty and drop him to 3rd, moving Ogier and Toyota 1 spot. That way Hyundai would still lead manu champ but by less points.

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    It's scandalous that Hyundai's don't get at least a time penalty. Guess taking their ball home at Nurburgring 2 weeks ago has worked and now FIA let's them get away with what they want...

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    These are just a few I remember

    Burn's flywheel 20 grams too light in Argentina = exclusion from Burn's inherited win.
    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...tina-exclusion

    Hirvonen's clutch and turbo in 2012 Portugal. The turbo part .02mm too big. Hirvonen's win transferred to Ostberg,
    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/9...-hirvonen-case

    2009 Rally Australia - antiroll bars - Citroen - 1 minute penalty. Hirvonen/ Ford winner instead of Loeb.

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