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    I just love it how these dudes are still such friends although biggest rivals in rival teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    I just love it how these dudes are still such friends although biggest rivals in rival teams
    this is not friendly though...

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    I’ve seen exclusion in the past but times have changed I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    this is not friendly though...

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    I’ve seen exclusion in the past but times have changed I guess.
    Ooh.. shut up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
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    Those rules.. :lol: ,,5 teaspoons of sugar too lightweight'' and 10k eur fine (or 30k if similar problem occurs during 12 months time)
    This is a thing for which everyone bar works team would be immediately excluded. That's simply a fact and we have seen that gazillion times.

    Even last week FIA in their decision about exclusion of Lindholm from Latvia wrote that it is irrelevant how much a measured value cross the tolerance limit. The tolerance is there to give no discussion about breaching it. They also clearly wrote in the very same decision from last week that any consideration of the competitive advantage coming from the breach of the tolerance must not be considered an excuse.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    At least it was just a fine, it would have been silly if they had taken the win away from Sordo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kradovech View Post
    At least it was just a fine, it would have been silly if they had taken the win away from Sordo.
    No, it would not have been silly. It would be perfectly by the rules applied to everyone else.

    Again, this decision completely contradicts last week decision about exclusion of Lindholm from the Rally Liepaja and about hundreds of other cases.

    It's irrelevant how much a value cross the tolerance. The tolerance is set exactly to avoid any discussion about the size of infringement and about any competitive advantage.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kradovech View Post
    At least it was just a fine, it would have been silly if they had taken the win away from Sordo.
    There’s also the high possibility it would have taken Hyundai away from the championship too. Hurts to say it, but the last thing that the FIA want to do is piss off one of two manus that are part of the championship, very much especially at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    No, it would not have been silly. It would be perfectly by the rules applied to everyone else.

    Again, this decision completely contradicts last week decision about exclusion of Lindholm from the Rally Liepaja and about hundreds of other cases.

    It's irrelevant how much a value cross the tolerance. The tolerance is set exactly to avoid any discussion about the size of infringement and about any competitive advantage.
    It would have been justified, yes. But it would have been a silly situation nonetheless - a very small mistake by the team and major consequences.
    I would say that since no real advantage was gained, a fine is reasonable punishment.

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    Mirek is right,while there is no advantage to this particular case,rules are rules.
    Plenty of others disqualified for the same reasons.
    I wouldnt like Sordo to withdraw,but everyone must play with same rules.

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