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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    exactly the one won,and the other won nothing.Thats where i put the line.
    Thats why they dont deserve to be at the same sentence.
    If Novikov had aimed lower, would he have won a championship?

    I'm always surprised how bad a reputation Novikov has. Maybe he had the wrong mindset/hearing (!) for rallying and was never going settle down, but looking at his results in 2012, his first full season, and those of Tanak, maybe Novikov gave up (or was given up on) too soon?

    Novikov went up against the likes of Tanak and Neuville in the same car, on his day he beat them. Though most days admittedly, he crashed. But I do think there's a question mark over what could have been with him.

    PS, this isn't a knock against Luky, I'm a big fan. He's done what he could fund and, credit to him, hasn't given up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the sniper View Post
    If Novikov had aimed lower, would he have won a championship?

    I'm always surprised how bad a reputation Novikov has. Maybe he had the wrong mindset/hearing (!) for rallying and was never going settle down, but looking at his results in 2012, his first full season, and those of Tanak, maybe Novikov gave up (or was given up on) too soon?

    Novikov went up against the likes of Tanak and Neuville in the same car, on his day he beat them. Though most days admittedly, he crashed. But I do think there's a question mark over what could have been with him.

    PS, this isn't a knock against Luky, I'm a big fan. He's done what he could fund and, credit to him, hasn't given up.
    At that time Novikov had way more experience than Neuville and Tänak. Way way more. I have seen him at 16 driving Gr. N Impreza, destroying all estonian up and coming youngsters. Tänak was driving VW Golf or Renault Clio at that time... It's not even comparable the amount of experience Novikov had by that time.

    Needless to say he lost his almost secured title to Rainer Aus by crashing heavily at the later part of Saaremaa Rally.

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    According to Stephane Prevot, Novikov was a natural talent but didn't listen enough to pace notes

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    According to Stephane Prevot, Novikov was a natural talent but didn't listen enough to pace notes
    Absolutely fully agree

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    I always felt like his pacenotes were rather useless (at least I wouldn't be able to drive according to them). Just check yourself if you could drive according to this where 90% of corners are marked as "one": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYPLVjz9LNk
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Not listening to or having bad pace notes is also a part of having experience. Which obviously Novikov didn´t have.

    I guess generally he was too much unmature. He should have stayed in N-category a couple of years more.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    According to Stephane Prevot, Novikov was a natural talent but didn't listen enough to pace notes
    Prevot worded it perfectly in his book. If the RAC would run blind without notes, on the snow and on ice, Novikov and Duval would beat the opposition by minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupanton View Post
    Prevot worded it perfectly in his book. If the RAC would run blind without notes, on the snow and on ice, Novikov and Duval would beat the opposition by minutes.
    "To finish first you first need to finish"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupanton View Post
    Prevot worded it perfectly in his book. If the RAC would run blind without notes, on the snow and on ice, Novikov and Duval would beat the opposition by minutes.
    However taking those words for a true, one could state several finnish and swedish ancient drivers should beat Novikov and Duval by minutes.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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