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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Yeah, the best idea to promote EV is to charge the WRC from a diesel generator standing in the service park. Great idea... No, it isn't.
    what difference does it makes it that electricity is generated by a diesel generator of by a coal of gas plant a few kilometers away?

    it's all about PR and image. noboby cares about the reality. no sport that travels the world will ever be green, but the manufacturers just want to be able to claim otherwise.
    as long as the manufacturers can tell people in their marketing that they are being "green", all the rest doesn't really matter anymore.

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    Maybe it doesn't match your view, but people do care about the reality. The numbers will have to match their story, at least to some extent. No large company (including car manufacturers) wants to have the reputation of doing "greenwashing". Once you have that label, the whole marketing campaign is useless.

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    Besides power supplier tender, Matton confirmed to the press that Rally1H it’s going ahead, no matter how many manus are in…

    https://www.revistascratch.com/wrc/n...ricantes-58880

    Fingers crossed for Hyundai to keep their entry, as with only two manus the WRC seems to be doomed.
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    Interesting tweet

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    With all the talk about the WRC engine being outdated and that we need electric/hybrid. What power unit is in the brand new Hyundai i20N? What about the GR Yaris? Both petrol turbo. What cars is rallying used to market? The eco commuters? Or the back lane hooligans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Interesting tweet

    @bp_rally
    With all the talk about the WRC engine being outdated and that we need electric/hybrid. What power unit is in the brand new Hyundai i20N? What about the GR Yaris? Both petrol turbo. What cars is rallying used to market? The eco commuters? Or the back lane hooligans?
    It's quite naive to think the manufacturers are putting in millions to promote only the "homologation specials". Again, petrolhead logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    R5s sound really terrible... When I went to Rally Argentina I found the Maxi Rally cars to be far more exciting to watch because of the sound.
    Are they really so terrible?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qROTiK8pe-c
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Besides power supplier tender, Matton confirmed to the press that Rally1H it’s going ahead, no matter how many manus are in…

    https://www.revistascratch.com/wrc/n...ricantes-58880

    Fingers crossed for Hyundai to keep their entry, as with only two manus the WRC seems to be doomed.
    Couldn't be any more stubborn (or proud, or stupid, make your choice). As usual the people in power believe they know better than anyone and refuse to admit that what was once their bright idea is no longer valid (not even their fault here). Same everywhere, from politics, to companies, to sport.

    I hate to say so, but I almost wish both Huyndai and MSport bail out, so that the harsh reality would have to bring them down. Having said this, though, I wish ... not - or the next few years are going to be pretty boring ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by denkimi View Post
    what difference does it makes it that electricity is generated by a diesel generator of by a coal of gas plant a few kilometers away?

    it's all about PR and image. noboby cares about the reality. no sport that travels the world will ever be green, but the manufacturers just want to be able to claim otherwise.
    as long as the manufacturers can tell people in their marketing that they are being "green", all the rest doesn't really matter anymore.
    Telling people directly that they are dumb is something which worked perfectly in the past, right? Do you understand that even a minority which gets offended by that can do a lot of noise over social networks etc. and make your effort turning against you? If marketing for EV shall ever work, it must be at least somewhat credible, otherwise you don't need to bother and spend any money because it won't work anyway.

    Let me give you an example. The majority of people here is against EV. Three of four guys in whatever pub, you get in, will tell you plenty of reasons why it's bullshit. They happily use every fail used to promote EV and they are very happy when they find more ammunition for their guns - such as last year's pitiful show of the so-called green rally from Rally Bohemia 2019. The way how Audi pressed organizers to change the route because their cars would not be able to get into the finish got into every motoring and motorsport website and the fact that due to that the EVs caused major delay of the main competitive field on the SSS and got into the scheduled national TV stream instead of the main competition was just a cherry on the cake. Basically everybody who watched that and his dog hates them now. And it was discussed to death all over the internet because there is more than enough people waiting for such fails to spread them around.

    Think about it again. Your statement is a direct proof that this would not work in the very community which follows this sport because everyone here would take it as a sharade for retards. But who are those retards? People not following the sport? But that sport itself is the marketing and its audience is the target group of that marketing. Do you understand now that this would never work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    It's quite naive to think the manufacturers are putting in millions to promote only the "homologation specials". Again, petrolhead logic.
    Raising the profile of the brand is the main aim of WRC participation. But sticking with petrol turbos for the next gen i20(N) & Yaris (GR) while insisting they are going 'green' in WRC is strange logic.

    If both of these models were hybrid then they would probably promote their brands 'green credentials' more than hybrid WRC's.

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