WRC future

[AnttiL]

Yes but part of being a good driver is to now when to push. Of course modern cars are tougher and more exciting to watch but not like these guys can't get R5 to finish cmon.

Of course. But it would change the nature of the competition.

[wyler]

you see top line driver using r5 in regional events and the car usually reach the finish line pretty well...

[AnttiL]

you see top line driver using r5 in regional events and the car usually reach the finish line pretty well...

With less kilometres and most likely less level of competition.

[deephouse]

Some WRC drivers did drive on wrc scale format before with R5 cars.. I mean it's each teams frickin' job to make it better. Isn't it?? He is concerned because he doesn't have a car yet and other two have it already for a quite some time now. Or he is afraid that if he did actualy build an R5 car it would be fragile as f***. These are race cars and most of the manufacturers who build that type of car is building them for a customers so the product needs to be excelent, otherwise they will go to the rivals which have better package.. Simple a that. Makinen needs to stop blaberring nonsenses. Just because he have unlimited money from Akio doesn't mean that every team have it. I'm worried about M-Sport not Hyundai. M-Sport could actually leave whole thing if the right solution will not be brought up.

[AnttiL]

Some WRC drivers did drive on wrc scale format before with R5 cars..

Many of these drivers who have taken the step from R5 to WRC have been surprised at how much more pace you need to stay up with the top drivers.

[mknight]

https://www.rallit.fi/rallin-mm-sarj...toa-realismia/.... If you take the center diff off (like Hyundai and M-Sport want (!!!)), you start seeing more driveshaft failures...

My Google translate of the same article says that MSport and Hyundai want to remove the centre diff and reinforce the driveshafts at the same time.

The whole thing sounds like a big rant where he wants to keep everything the same as is now and just add hybrid tech. That might be good idea for him with probably the highest budget and currently the fastest car, but it's not difficult to see that others want changes.

I'd say that the number of manus in WRC (2!!!) speaks for itself about how sustainable current rules are. Furthermore MSport has been building rallycars since forever and has also been focused on costs for quite many years. Somehow I rather trust them on cost-saving ideas.

[pantealex]

Most of you don´t understand that HYBRID needs power source (battery) which weights a lot.

For 50km range several hundred kilos.

That extra weight will break current Rally2 cars...

[JAM]

Andrea Adamo said last saturday that the deal for cheaper WRC's is done:

http://sportmotores.com/portal/sport...ticia?id=56613

[wyler]

With less kilometres and most likely less level of competition.

not really. take wrc2/3 we had we have ostberg, camilli, greensmith, we had rovampera. not far from top level, same km as wrc.
of course, car will be revised, not stay the same. but clearly is feasible without much drama.
also is pretty understandable that every manager tries to plead for their benefit. toyota is the only one without such spec car -even if they r to be revised- but especially such an engine. remember the battle over dismissal of gre?
point is this single manu benefit is not beneficial as well to wrc development in general. at least at this particular moment.

[AnttiL]

not really. take wrc2/3 we had we have ostberg, camilli, greensmith, we had rovampera. not far from top level, same km as wrc.

Now check how often Østberg's R5 rallies failed last year from technical faults. My point is that the competition in WRC2 is not as tough as in main WRC. You can drive easier and expect to get a podium position. If you do that with main WRC, you will fall too far behind, because the cars are more durable and the level of pace higher.